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   In article <35c3b759-2513-45ab-bfd3-e1f722403751@googlegroups.com>,   
   PeteWasLucky wrote:   
   >Seriously I wanted to vote for one of them to avoid the other but I am   
   >not really sure it makes any differences.   
      
   It surely doesn't seem like it would, as history has shown us, does   
   it?   
      
   From George W Bush to Obama for the last 16 years, how many innocent   
   folks have been killed because of Washington's geopolitical interests?   
      
   And this is only the latest, and the most ridiculous, years of our   
   killing spree. There was a steady rise of military interventions,   
   always resorting to trick, false accusation, and the sword, beginning   
   with Bush 41 and followed by Bill Clinton, as soon as the USSR was no   
   more. There was no peace dividend from the large increase in military   
   spending during the Reagan-Bush years when USSR went away. Only a lot   
   more bloodshed.   
      
   Did it have to be?   
      
   No one is saying that when Trump becomes president, it will be God's   
   Kingdom on earth. He may be just as bad as Hillary in terms of   
   killing innocent people in the defenseless world. But the ferocity   
   with which the extant power structure opposes his candidacy shows   
   unambiguously one thing, and that is that they are afraid that Trump   
   will not be as easily controlled as Hillary would be.   
      
   But except for the most cynical, why should anyone who abhors   
   bloodshed and killing not have the right to even hope that maybe, just   
   maybe, Trump would not be as evil as George W Bush, not as cynical and   
   cold-hearted as Obama. And if the string of his criticism of the wars   
   under Bush and Obama in the context of how much they have hurt the US   
   economy has any substance, maybe there is hope.   
      
   No one denies the grip the Military Industrial Complex (MIC) has over   
   this country, especially in its new millennial form as specified in   
   the document Project for the New American Century (PNAC). If the MIC   
   was bad enough in President Eisenhower's time, it is certainly worse   
   now.   
      
   But if we don't have hope, we would not be Christian. And since this   
   is a nation of Christian people, it should be self-evident that we're   
   entitled to do our best and hope for the best for our legacy, if   
   nothing else.   
      
   The politicians who have occupied the White House all claimed to be   
   Christians. How did they manage to be so glib about pulling the   
   trigger on so many Iraqis, Afghans, Pakistanis, Yemenis, Libyans, and   
   Syrians? Of course, they are not what they claimed to be. But does   
   that mean that the people themselves should not try, again and again?   
      
   But even if we aren't Christians, how can we accept the injustice done   
   in our name and all the lies that have gone with it and will continue   
   to do so? Is it just because we aren't directly the targets of bombs   
   and bullets? Are we contented to be just a bigger pool of living   
   organisms just like a dish of bacteria or viruses?   
      
   Finally, being aware of how the Deep State (or MIC or whatever is   
   their latest incarnation) has been doing and is expected to do to   
   prevent Trump from seizing power, I'm not hopeful. But what he has   
   done has been courageous and helpful in raising folks' consciousness   
   about the wars waged by George Bush and Obama/Hillary. So, his   
   candidacy, along with Jill Stein's and the shorter-lived Rand Paul's   
   have all been for naught in awakening the conscience of the American   
   people. The level of interests in this election, partly due to the   
   ferocious reactions of the Establishment to Trump's candidacy and   
   partly due to the lack of logic in Hillary's, actually indicate that   
   there is a good reason why it is so. It is food for thought for   
   today!   
      
   lo yeeOn   
      
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