XPost: soc.culture.iraq, rec.sport.tennis   
   From: skriptis@post.t-com.hr   
      
   TT  Wrote in message:   
   > 22.10.2016, 17:55, *skriptis kirjoitti:   
   >   
   >> So basically, by joining NATO, country declares itself to be enemy   
   >>  of Russia.   
   >   
   > Actually countries are joining NATO because Russia is a threat to them.   
   > It's about sovereignty.   
   >   
   > Besides, Ukraine wasn't joining NATO but wanted to join EU.   
      
      
   This is very rude. Lying so much. Ukraine ie their legitimate and   
    democratically elected leadership REFUSED to start process of   
    joining EU claiming it was a bad deal for them. (For various   
    reasons it is)   
   Eastern parts of Ukraine are completely integrated with Russia   
    economically and joining EU ie breaking those links would would   
    literally kill those areas. On the other hand, western parts do   
    want to join EU.   
   Ukraine itself is split cca fifty-fifty on Europe-Russia issue, so   
    for them it made most sense to avoid aligning with either side   
    for the foreseeable future. Their leadership decided just that.   
      
      
   And isn't that how democracy works? Legitimate government makes   
    decisions. If you don't like it, you wait til next election, and   
    change your county's path by voting for different parties.   
      
      
   But no, after their decision, armed rebellion started which   
    resulted in a CIA orchestrated coup, overthrow of a legitimate   
    president and installment of a gang regime with the task of   
    pursuing rigid antirussuan policy.   
      
   Some of those eastern parts of Ukraine would have nothing with it.   
      
      
      
      
   >   
   >>  West had tried couple of total invasions on Russia in the past,   
   >>  Napoleon, Hitler   
   >   
   > Napoleon and Hitler didn't attack only Russia...   
      
   So you'd make Russians feel comfortable with the fact that NATO   
    too attacked other countries eg Libya? You're such a fun person.   
    ;)   
      
      
      
   >   
   > Wrong.   
   >   
   > Assad killed his people with gas.   
      
   Have you seen anyone killed?   
   Links?   
   And please not from "SOHO", Syrian observatory for human rights,   
    that's an office in central London with couple of geeks paid to   
    spread propaganda.   
      
      
      
      
   >> It's not an isolated case. Neocons have already caused extreme   
   >>  misery, death and destruction in Afganistan   
   >   
   > Actually Russia started the Afghan war.   
      
   ???   
   My God you're lost entirely.   
      
      
      
      
   > That's simply not true.   
   >   
   > Have a potato.   
   >   
   > This has been discussed previously, here and in free media.   
   >   
   > Have a potato.   
   >   
   >   
      
      
   The more potatoes I see, the harder I've crushed your lies.   
      
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