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From: skriptis@post.t-com.hr
TT Wrote in message:
> 27.10.2016, 10:59, lo yeeOn kirjoitti:
>> In article , TT
wrote:
>>> 27.10.2016, 9:50, lo yeeOn kirjoitti:
>>>> Hillary spoke emphatically about setting up a no-fly zone in Syria
>>>
>>> Didn't you already post a topic about this...
>>>
>>> I guess you're running out of even vaguely interesting Putinleaks.
>>
>> No, I ain't.
>>
>
> Sure you are, there never was anything of relevance with those leaks in
> first place.
>
>> Do you know about the horrible veteran suicide rate? Do you know that
>> since Hillary started the Syrian civil war in late 2011
>
> How can Secretary of State start a civil war...
>
> I guess Arab Spring and Assad using nerve gas is Hillary's fault too.
Assad uses nerve gas? Wtf?
> , there are
>> already close to 500,000 war deaths and millions more have been forced
>> to flee their homes?
>
> Thank you Vladimir.
Look I know facts are killing you the neocons have overthrown
Saddam's secular regime by claiming he was supporting islamists,
which is an utter nonsense, and they also lied to the world he
was building wmd. Clearly an aggression on a sovereign nation.
Now if the end result was really that good, removing a weirdo
autocrat and improving the lives of the people, we might have
overlooked the path to it, but we can't because the end result is
a disaster. Iraqis aren't living better in fact they live in
hell.
Hundreds of thousand of dead people as a result of aggression,
unleashed terrorism, country split and torn apart, constant
terror, radicalisation, death, misery.
They repeated it in Libya where security situation ended up so
bad that even US ambassador got killed. Just imagine then how an
average Libyan is doing with all the gangs, militias and
jihadists running the country. With Gadaffi they had security,
social peace, best living standard in whole of Africa and Europe
too had security on its southern borders.
But the neocons still keep pushing, since 2011 they've been arming
and funding islamic terrorists in Syria to fight against Syrian
government. That's the reason Syrian civil war broke out. How
would Americans feel if Boston bombers brothers were funded from
abroad? And if there were thousands of them, willing to commit
such acts. Maybe 5% but of huge population like Latinos? It's a
hell of epic proportions and neocons are behind it, and Hillary
is their man for this cycle.
The stuff that really happened in Syria, how it all started was
somewhat similar to Ferguson protests in a way that both groups
has some reasonable objections to the governments. Assad was
certainly not perfect and Syria wasn't a proper western
democracy. But he still is the most pro western guy there.
In America such scenario of violent gangs going after the power is
impossible but imagine foreign powers praising Ferguson
protesters for raising their justified concerns regarding human
rights, black rights etc but in a violent way and who ally
themselves with Boston bombers and their associates from abroad
to violently fight the US government.
After Afghanistan, which I forgot btw, and is a complete mess as
well, Iraq, Libya and these attempts in Syria since 2011 you have
a nerve to draw Putin in all this for his 2015 support to Syrian
government?
Russia (not Putin personally), are helping legitimate Syrian
government.
I welcome that, like all normal peace loving people.
These calls for stopping "Russian aggression" would be like calls
to "stop US and UK bombings of German children" in 1944. Sounds
noble but considering Auschwitz ovens were still working at the
time, it isn't really.
If you're against Syria and Russia here, you're for head chopping
jihadists.
I don't think you really are, you just hate Russia.
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