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   From: acoustic@panix.com   
      
   In article <_CH%z.26402$mN1.4425@uutiset.elisa.fi>, TT   wrote:   
   >30.11.2016, 23:00, TT kirjoitti:   
   >> 30.11.2016, 21:56, lo yeeOn kirjoitti:   
   >>> The United Nations has rejected a UK appeal against its previous   
   >>>   ruling in favor of Julian Assange as "inadmissible," thus requiring   
   >>>   both London and Stockholm to end the WikiLeaks founder's arbitrary   
   >>>   detention.   
   >>   
   >> He's in self imposed detention, carrying on his criminal activities.   
   >   
   >Wonder how China would handle people like Assange and Manning...   
   >   
   >Do you think if Manning was Chinese he would be still alive?   
      
   So, you follow up on your own post?  Tsk, tsk.   
      
   As for your curiosity of a hypothetical situation, you needn't have   
   any.   
      
   We all know about the Chinese dissidents.  Liu Xiaobo, blind Chen, and   
   others.  While they have been detained and sentenced for some crimes,   
   they were not tortured, unlike the case of Assange, and especially   
   unlike the case of Manning.   
      
   And while Liu was clearly extravagantly funded by the NED as he called   
   for a 300 year-tough-love for his 1.2 billion compatriots, poor   
   Manning was never funded by anybody and acted purely out of disgust or   
   revulsion to the brutality and inhumanity of the kind of things our   
   military was directed to do in poor defenseless countries like Iraq   
   and Afghanistan under the ironically named banner of _Operation   
   Enduring Freedom_.   
      
   And Assange was only crowd-funded by the people - the same people   
   who've been sick and tired of the shenanigans the neocons have carried   
   out at the expense of Muslim lives in poor defenseless countries.   
      
   Of course, if Manning were jailed in China, he would get no worse   
   treatment than Liu - who gets to eat lunch with his wife on a regular   
   basis.   
      
   Liu, to many Chinese is a traitor, and his work against China was much   
   more pre-meditated, much more compromised, and much more   
   foreign-funded than anything they have ever alleged against Manning or   
   Assange, but he gets off easy and even won over a million dollar of   
   Nobel prize money for his treacherous activities.   
      
   And don't forget that "dissident" Liu even wrote an op-ed piece in   
   2014, denouncing John Kerry while praising G W Bush and advocating for   
   the latter's re-election for what he did in Iraq.  (Why on earth did   
   a _Chinese_ "dissident" have such an opinion about an _American_   
   election?  Could it have been that all recipients of NED funding   
   needed to show support for their boss W?)   
      
   You may not know about Liu; but that article mentioned shows that Liu   
   is a real neocon or otherwise a sycophant of them because he believes   
   that the lives that were sacrificed in Iraq were a necessary price for   
   "freedom".  You just have to wonder if Liu is willing to give up his   
   own life for anybody's freedom?   
      
   lo yeeOn   
      
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