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   In article <0e8f7830-4354-4e70-b1e7-a1b3e44be553@googlegroups.com>,   
   ltlee1   wrote:   
   >On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 5:50:23 AM UTC-5, lo yeeOn wrote:   
   >> In article , TT   
   > wrote:   
   >> >31.1.2017, 9:51, The Iceberg kirjoitti:   
   >> >> It is all quite funny, most people can see Indonesia isn't on the list   
   >> >and that was the give away that all the protesters are just sour grapes   
   >> >Hillary supporters.   
   >> >   
   >> >That's an odd conclusion. Neither is Saudi Arabia.   
   >> >   
   >> >Btw, did losing side protest on the streets after previous presidents   
   >> >were elected?   
   >> >   
   >> >Consider that maybe they are protesting for a good reason.   
   >>   
   >> They're protesting because the neocons and their MSM friends are doing   
   >> their best to make sure that Trump won't succeed.  A lot of American   
   >> people are listening to Schumer, McCain, Graham and the like because   
   >> otherwise there wouldn't have been so many Democrats who are more   
   >> concerned about the rights of a few Muslims being denied entry into   
   >> the U.S. than about the rights of Muslim women and children to live.   
   >> Consider the hundreds of thousands of those who have been killed in   
   >> Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, and especially Iraq, and Syria!   
   >>   
   >> And you know the people who have gained permission to enter this   
   >> country are overwhelmingly people who have worked for the U.S. and   
   >> against their own people in countries like Syria, Afghanistan, and   
   >> Iraq.   
   >>   
   >> The State Department aren't giving visas to those who just want to   
   >> come.  So since we have a long term plan to occupy Bagram, Trump is   
   >> giving Afghanistan an exception to the total ban.  We have strategic   
   >> bases in Saudi Arabia.  So, exception is also made for the Saudis.   
   >>   
   >> But despite the superficial distinction between Afghanistan on one   
   >> hand and Iraq and Syria on the other, typically only people who have   
   >> worked for the CIA or our occupation forces and their families are   
   >> eligible for visas.   
   >>   
   >> In an ideal situation, we don't need this kind of discrimination.  But   
   >> Bush, Obama, and Hillary Clinton and their neocon masters have screwed   
   >> things up just as we did with Vietnam.  People who have worked for the   
   >> CIA or American troops then obviously feared "persecution", that's how   
   >> many of them ended up in the U.S.   
   >>   
   >> But while the powers-that-be in Washington were responsible for   
   >> creating the refugee crisis, they pretended that they were some kind   
   >> of humanitarians who care about good Muslims.  What they don't tell   
   >> you is that they actually don't give a damn about Muslim lives.  If   
   >> they did, they wouldn't have killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis   
   >> just to catch Saddam and put him to death after a kangaroo trial and   
   >> they wouldn't have killed hundreds of thousands of Syrians just to try   
   >> to overthrow Assad's government.   
   >>   
   >> Why should the millions of Iraqis and Syrians have to suffer just   
   >> because Saddam or Assad are some kind of bad guys?   
   >>   
   >> It makes no sense the way these things have been handled.   
   >>   
   >> And it won't make sense until you dig a little deeper into what has   
   >> all happened.   
   >>   
   >> If you google a string like "intercept deep state trump", you'll find   
   >> all kinds of articles which discuss how the old order (left behind by   
   >> G W Bush and Obama) is now fighting the new order with "tooth, claw,   
   >> and nail".  You'll see terms like "Deep State", "Open Warfare", "CIA",   
   >> "Dems", "McCain", ...!   
   >>   
   >> It's not like Trump is an agent working for Putin's Russia or some   
   >> other country.  (If it were, they would have court-marshaled him,   
   >> instead of swearing him in.)   
   >>   
   >> It's because the Max Boot, John Bolton, John McCain, Chuck Schumer   
   >> type all know that if they let Trump get a few years to work on   
   >> "draining the swamp", D.C. may no longer have many neocon friends left   
   >> in the government afterwards.  And that's why they are fighting so   
   >> ferociously now to destabilize the country so as to deligitimize   
   >> Trump and bring him down.   
   >>   
   >> >It took Nixon several years to fire Attorney General. At this pace we   
   >> >have nuclear holocaust next month.  Trump certainly isn't uniting US   
   >> >or anything else.   
   >>   
   >> Trump wants to unite the people but the neocons won't let him and they   
   >> can count on the Madonna type because while the Material Girl has   
   >> adopted a bunch of children from some African country, she has felt   
   >> absolutely nothing for the children who have been killed or maimed by   
   >> our bombs and missiles in the past 16 years.   
   >>   
   >> But if you truly believe that Trump is setting a pace to have a   
   >> nuclear holocaust next month, you should get out of North Korea real   
   >> fast.  And if you figure out a place on planet Earth that could avoid   
   >> the cross-fire of nuclear-armed missiles, please be so kind to share   
   >> it with us before we all get annihilated.   
   >>   
   >> lo yeeOn   
   >   
   >Just curious. Do you think Silicon Valley leaders are also neocons?   
   >   
   >The following are the beginning paragraph of a CNBC article with the   
   >title of "Here's how Silicon Valley leaders are fighting the Trump   
   >travel ban"   
   >   
   > "After slamming Trump's actions and scrambling to protect their own   
   >employees, tech companies extended support to others impacted by   
   >President Trump's entry ban on noncitizens from seven predominantly   
   >Muslim countries, which remained in effect on Sunday.   
   >   
   >Tech giants, start-ups and many of the industry's power players have   
   >pledged support for the American Civil Liberties Union, which has filed   
   >a lawsuit seeking to stop the order, and joined airport protesters in   
   >San Francisco and New York."   
      
   Billionaires protecting their own employees?   
      
   Of course, they have a thin veneer of concern about their employees,   
   but not enough to pay American-level wages.  Naturally, if they had   
   any real concern for their employees, they'd offer reasonable wages   
   --- and in that case, there'd be plenty of local takers, with no need   
   for our brothers from India, Serbia, Ukraine, and elsewere to trek   
   over here.   
      
   The real concern of the billionaires is of course their billions, and   
   they'll gladly support the ACLU or any other organization working to   
   keep American tech wages low.   
      
   Another thing is your story is from CNBC, which is a propaganda arm of   
   the neocons.  Propaganda is essential in a game-changing power   
   struggle such as this.   
      
   The neocons want to do regime change at will.  Their goal is hegemony   
   and their means is to kill and destroy.  The visa thing, as I pointed   
   out in my post, was typically to keep people quiet - the people who   
   helped the invaders at the expense of their own countrymen.  The   
      
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