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From: acoustic@panix.com
"THAAD is here to protect South Korea, why do you oppose it?" CBS's
Diaz asked.
"The only reason America deployed THAAD here is to dominate Asia,"
another [South Korean] man said. "America's presence here only
raises the threat of war."
Please know that the Koreans, from the south or the north, aren't
little copies of Red Riding Hood. They aren't stupid. There is
nothing about their country or its history that you know and they
don't know themselves. For more of my rebuttal to jdeluise's ad
hominem, please continue to read.
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jdeluise wrote:
>On Wed, 10 May 2017 21:44:59 +0000, lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> I personally also do not believe the FBI's conclusion on 9/11. I
>> believe that I am far from being alone since the term "truthers" has
>> long been around even before I started posting on these newsgroups.
>
>As have the moon landing deniers, holocaust deniers, etc. Your
>chronology on usenet (you are a bad usenet citizen by the way) is
>irrelevant.
Well, what do you know?
Jdeluise is as grumpy as McCain when Trump gives the neocons and the
Deep State guardians the finger!
You've got to wonder why?
To me and many truthers, 9/11 was only an excuse to launch the PNAC
sub-projects; certainly no official report has much verifiability.
It's pretty clear to me first of all that McCain is up to no good by
badmouthing the head of state of America in front of a bunch of
Germans at this weird "Munich Security Conference core group".
Mike Flynn can't talk with the Russian ambassador but McCain can speak
ill of the president before a bunch of foreigners? How strange!
So, McCain is exactly the no-good type that my subject line expressed
- and as a good citizen, it is my duty to use my free speech rights to
say that and I'm for peace and for making America great again.
Furthermore, by spreading an inappropriate, non-parallel comparison
between the firing of Comey with the firing of Archibald Cox, he is
guilty of smearing. The foreigners most likely didn't know that
Archibld Cox wasn't an FBI director. To a majority of Americans in
Nixon's day, firing Cox was bad but to the majority of today's
Americans, firing Comey is good - good for Trump followers and good
for Hillary's supporters, at least.
To me, and to many truthers, the FBI report does not convince.
All it did was to whip up a war fervor, giving George W Bush a blank
check to kill Muslims, and bring disaster to others (see below).
The official conclusion (re 9/11) is illogical and against physics,
about which I'll let the structural engineers and the physicists
explain with their detailed explanation accompanied with photos,
simulations, and calculations. Why should the official line on 9/11
be any more trustworthy than the official line about Iraq's
non-existent WMD was?
The PNAC embraced by George W Bush and many of his key officials as
well as by Bush's brother is about regime change in the Middle East
and containment of Russia and China.
They don't give a damn about people's lives.
They claimed Iraq had a bad guy in charge, they went in and purged all
the Baathists and made not only the lives of the Sunni Iraqis
miserable, but also the rest of the people of the former Iraq under
Saddam. This includes Christians as well, such as the ancienct
community of ASsyrian Christians. How dare Bush claim to be a
Christian? And I refer to the "former Iraq" because Kurdish leader
Barzani has told the Italians recently that Iraq no longer exists.
So, we destroyed Iraq.
And we went on to destroy Libya and Syria, and now Yemen.
Of course, we are stuck in the Afghan quagmire - a place known as
empires' graveyard, as you well know.
Yet, McCain as well as former UN ambassador Bolton who sold the Iraq
war, and former CIA director James Woolsey who told us that we must
endure decades of War on Terror, as well as the current UN ambassador
Nikki Haley are all stepping on one another's toes to inflict pain on
our Korean brothers and sisters.
Somehow, you don't see their pain, even as they have just spoken loud
and clear that they don't want our THAAD systems and they want to have
a reproachment with their northern siblings.
It was a stroke of genius, IMHO, that Trump lobbed an metaphorically
incendiary device threatening "major, major conflict" with North Korea
that would make the neocons like McCain happy while at once
galvanizing the South Korea citizens to vote in "by a landslide" a
candidate who has promised them to make peace with the North. Of
course, the Deep State is very powerful and Trump might cave and
launch a war with NK. But that is another part of the history yet to
be unfold.
But at least, if Trump wants to, he can tell the American people that
the South Koreans don't want war with their northern siblings, so what
business do we have to immiserate their lives? Even if we don't care
about Korean lives, are we ready to absorb the collapse of the South
Korean economy, which probably ranks the top ten currently? And all
the Korean refugees? Tons of them will end up here, regardless of
official policy.
And Trump can see that if he doesn't show these neocons who is the
boss, they will eventually destroy him.
And I guarantee you that if they will make Trump fulfil his "major,
major conflict" promise, it will be a "major, major" disaster for him
personally. I fervently hope that he is smarter and more courageous
than the McCain type expects him to be and hence avoid that future.
You can keep throwing some irrelevant insults at me, any time you
want. I can absorb all that, 'cause these days, the neocons are in an
existential crisis, and they are pretty grumpy, especially when they
saw Russia's Kislyak having morphed into a Henry Kissinger in the Oval
Office.
lo yeeOn
South Koreans voted for change on Tuesday. May 9, 2017, 7:29 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-korea-election-results-north
korea-thaad-protests/
The nation opted -- by a significant margin -- for a liberal
presidential candidate who could completely alter the long-time
strategy on dealing with belligerent neighbor Kim Jong Un to the
north.
Official poll results were to be announced later Tuesday, but as exit
polling showed a landslide for Moon Jae-in, his two rivals conceded.
CBS News correspondent Adriana Diaz reports there were stark
differences between Moon and his competitors on how to contain the
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