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   To accuse NK's leadership as   
     "while not irrational or crazy as some suspect, is very much a   
     two-dimensional thinker who might decide to do the unthinkable if   
     push came to shove..."   
      
   is a clear indication that the narrative from Washington against NK is   
   deeply biased and even malicious --- and as such most dangerous!   
      
   What does it mean "if push came to shove"?   
      
   So, NK keeps testing its missile technology and upgrading its defense   
   capabilities, that is for us to say we have been pushed and shoved?   
      
   China has gone through these tests to bring itself into the nuclear   
   power club under the communists.  We let it because there was no   
   viable alternative otherwise.  (As I point out below, only the US has   
   launched nukes --- and got away with it too.)   
      
   As I began my original post with a simple question-and-answer, I cited   
   Hyun Lee, a member of the National Campaign to End the Korean War and   
   a South Korean, concerning whether NK would make the first move in   
   starting a war with anyone.  Hyun Lee's answer was succinct:   
      
     "Washington doesn't truly believe that".   
      
   To the countrary, US presidents have frequently declare that they   
   would keep all options on the table, including a first strike, a   
   nuclear strike, a decapitation strike, or anything they haven't yet   
   let us know.   
      
   The G.W. Bush administration has scuttled the Korean's Sunshine policy   
   and declared NK a part of his "Axis Of Evil" which included also Iraq   
   and Iran.  Bush and or his officials repeatedly said that all options,   
   including a first (military) strike, were "on the table".   
      
   The Obama administration followed the same pattern.  The appended   
   article below from 2014 reported that Obama's Defense Secretary Leon   
   Panetta threated N Korea with a "first strike".   
      
   Trump's administration followed the same idiotic rhetoric.   
      
   The US government has been the real aggressor in this confrontation   
   and the US government has a history of doing all those evil things   
   they have threatened to do to NK in other circumstances.   
      
   The US government was the first and only government to launch a   
   nuclear strike against another country - killing hundreds of poor   
   defenseless Japanese civilians overnight and millions endured lifelong   
   radioactive sickness.  Nobody ever dared to sue us.  Isn't it great to   
   be the world's most militarily powerful country?  (Not really.  I   
   believe that such a cocky and we-could-care-less attitude is the   
   genesis of "they hate our freedom" and terrorism against countries in   
   the West.)   
      
   The US government launched its first military strike against Iraq ---   
   based on false pretenses plus many years of heavy demonization against   
   the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein and his Baathist followers.   
      
   The US government has attempted to assassinate Fidel Castro, and other   
   heads of sovereign countries.   
      
   The US government has launched so many first strikes against so many   
   countries, from Somalia to Libya to Yemen to Afghanistan.  How can we   
   not understand the nervousness of those governments the US government   
   has repeatedly demonized?  Demonization is always the first salvo of   
   Washington's unquenched thirst for more bloody war.   
      
   Accusing NK's leaders as two-dimensional thinkers is such a dishonest   
   piece of propaganda because there is no evidence that they are and we   
   do not give them any room to manuever.  All we give them is an   
   existential issue to focus on.  We're boxing their options into a   
   single-minded existential one!  Isn't it fantastic?   
      
   What my original post's message is precisely this:   
      
   "Washington doesn't really believe that" NK would make the first   
   military strike on any country, nuclear or conventional!   
      
   Therefore, if the American people can liberate ourselves from that   
   sub-3-d thinking, or narrative, Washington has imposed on us, then it   
   will have no choice but stop threatening others and start rebuilding   
   America by withdrawing US troops from the Korea peninsula and sign a   
   peace treaty with the North Korea.   
      
   It will save us a lot of money in the long term and save us a lot of   
   worry.   
      
   Why don't we give that a serious try?   
      
   What do we have to lose?   
      
   Why do we have to cause millions on the Korean peninsula to suffer the   
   horrible fate that Washington has made the defenseless people in the   
   Middle East, Afghanistan and now also Africa to suffer because the   
   Washington warmongers' have an unquenchable thirst for regime change?   
      
   It is so easy for the US propaganda to talk about our defense, as if   
   it truly care about the people.  Yet it is Washington which is holding   
   all the cards but has stubbornly refused to use it and be an earnest   
   to goodness peacemaker, like all Christians should!   
      
   [If Washington truly cares about the people, it would have afforded us   
   national healthcare, regardless of our income.  If Washington truly   
   cares about the people, it would not risk casualties to the American   
   soldiers sent there to be sitting ducks on the 38th parallel.  If   
   Washington truly cares about the people, it would not risk creating   
   millions of Koreans refugees that we will have to surely absorbed.   
   Washington's claim of defense is not believable.  It just wants to   
   start a war like it gave us a big whopper about Iraq's threat to US   
   major cities.  If the people trust Washington even in this day and   
   age, we are doomed.]   
      
   That Washington's propaganda does not hold water shows because the   
   South Koreans are broadly protesting the installation of the THAAD   
   system the Obama administration railroaded into Seoul - even agreeing   
   to foot the very expensive one-plus billion annual expenses in order   
   to operate it, all at the American taxpayers' expenses, of course.  It   
   shows because the South Koreans are not that worried about their   
   northern neighbors whom we tirelessly demonize.  It shows because they   
   even overwhelmingly elected a president who wants no THAAD system in   
   his country and who wants to talk with his northern counterpart.  It   
   shows because NK's two closest neighbors in China and Russia aren't   
   worried about NK's defense buildup enough to want to follow Nikki   
   Haley around and sing her tune in the UN.  They both know that the   
   real aggressor is the United States!  It might be hard for a proud   
   American to take.  But the US is the real aggressor in the so-called   
   NK problem.   
      
   lo yeeOn   
      
   Subject: Is former CIA director Leon Panetta's "powerful sense that   
   war on [the Korean peninsula] was neither hypothetical nor remote" an   
   indication of "[t]ypical wooden-headedness on the part of a US   
   official" or something more systemic?   
      
      
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