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   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   James Last plays in Miami  wrote   
   > Delimited wrote   
      
   >> INITIALLY, it was about squashing the al-Qaeda apparatus.   
   >> The Taliban were protecting them, so we had to go clean   
   >> out the nest ourselves.   
      
   >> But the USA can rarely STICK to a simple plan. In   
   >> a month we're into "nation building" and all the   
   >> complex shit that involves. It really doesn't work,   
      
   It did in Germany and Japan.   
      
   >> triply so in a hard-ass place like Afghanistan.   
      
   Yep, nothing has worked there in centurys.   
      
   >> The hearts and minds there hate EVERYBODY, FOREVER.   
      
   Its much more complicated than that, still completely tribal.   
      
   >> So, from now on, the only "soc.culture.afghanistan"   
   >> is what the Taliban COMMAND it to be. Complain   
   >> - off with your head, for real.   
      
   > As the Australian says today (Greg Sheriden):-   
      
   > "A total debacle: 20 years of blood and treasure all lost for nothing   
      
   That overstated, it wasn't for nothing, the terrorist training   
   camps are gone and so is bin Laden and al queida.   
      
   At a stupid cost tho.   
      
   > The almost instant collapse of the Afghan government reflects the most   
   > comprehensive failure of Western power in decades. We are now about to   
   > witness one of the worst tragedies for women and girls in modern history."   
      
   That last is silly. The Taliban did that when they took over in the first   
   place.   
   >   
      
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