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   From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com   
      
   Delimited  wrote   
   > Rod Speed wrote   
   >> James Last plays in Miami  wrote   
   >>> Delimited wrote   
      
   >>>> INITIALLY, it was about squashing the al-Qaeda apparatus. The Taliban   
   >>>> were protecting them, so we had to go clean out the nest ourselves.   
      
   >>>> But the USA can rarely STICK to a simple plan. In   
   >>>> a month we're into "nation building" and all the   
   >>>> complex shit that involves. It really doesn't work,   
      
   >> It did in Germany and Japan.   
      
   >   And that was the ONLY time   
      
   Wrong. It happened with Korea and the Philippines and   
   Hawaii too. And Guam, Samoa, Panama, Puerto Rico.   
      
   >   - and special circumstances.   
      
   >   Germany was western-civ - easy. Japan, the emperor commanded   
   > compliance - so they DID comply.   
      
   More pig ignorant bullshit.   
      
   > Since then however .......   
      
   Pity about Korea, Guam, Samoa, Panama, Puerto Rico.   
      
   >>>> triply so in a hard-ass place like Afghanistan.   
   >>   
   >> Yep, nothing has worked there in centurys.   
   >>   
   >>>> The hearts and minds there hate EVERYBODY, FOREVER.   
   >>   
   >> Its much more complicated than that, still completely tribal.   
   >>   
   >>>> So, from now on, the only "soc.culture.afghanistan"   
   >>>> is what the Taliban COMMAND it to be. Complain   
   >>>> - off with your head, for real.   
   >>   
   >>> As the Australian says today (Greg Sheriden):-   
   >>   
   >>> "A total debacle: 20 years of blood and treasure all lost for nothing   
   >>   
   >> That overstated, it wasn't for nothing, the terrorist training   
   >> camps are gone and so is bin Laden and al queida.   
   >   
   >   Um, no ... al-Qaida and ISIS are NOT gone   
      
   Bullshit.   
      
   > - despite any claims to the contrary. They are still quite strong   
      
   Bullshit they are.   
      
   >   and as motivated as ever. Word is they are already on the Taliban's   
   > heels, setting up new bases of operation.   
      
   Only from fools as ignorant as you.   
      
   >   Even Iran is worried. The defeat of the Great Satan(s) in Afghanistan   
   > will be like mainlining meth to ultarad Islam - a sign that victory IS in   
   > reach. Expect a massive   
   >   influx of recruits.   
      
   Wanna bet outside Afghanistan ?   
      
   >> At a stupid cost tho.   
      
   >>> The almost instant collapse of the Afghan government reflects the most   
   >>> comprehensive failure of Western power in decades. We are now about to   
   >>> witness one of the worst tragedies for women and girls in modern   
   >>> history."   
      
   >> That last is silly. The Taliban did that when they took over in the first   
   >> place.   
      
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