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   What I see is the same situation in a smaller scale, and that France could   
   prevent this to happen for 13 more years then US. The situation is going   
   back into control progressively.   
      
      
   "dsfsdfsd"  wrote in message   
   news:7rEef.15495$oP5.11865@fe09.lga...   
   >   
   > "Kvebekski"  wrote in message   
   > news:QAvef.14730$wc.828530@wagner.videotron.net...   
   > > Hey dumbo: wanna hear about real totally uncontrolled violence, not only   
   > > car   
   > > damages? Compare the level of violence and destruction, even in a   
   country   
   > > which has structural differences that should make these kind of events   
   > > virtually impossible. Once upon a time, (not so far back):   
   > >   
   >   
   > The difference is that in the US, gov acted to stop the violence. In   
   France,   
   > they basically did nothing for almost three weeks. There were still 200   
   cars   
   > burned yesterday.   
   >   
   > Stupid blacks in LA burned down all their own stores and later complained   
   > that no businesses were rebuilding.   
   >   
   > Germany has their crystalnacht. You can find history of various "pogroms"   
   in   
   > any Eurodopean city. France previously used artillery against Paris   
   rioters.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > 05/01/92-2200CDT   
   > >   
   > > L.A. INSURRECTION SURPASSES 1965 WATTS RIOTS, 38 DEAD, MORE THAN 1,200   
   > > INJURED   
   > > By: Clark Staten, EMT-P   
   > > Los Angeles, CA - The latest reported deaths in Los Angeles bring to   
   > > thirty-eight the total that have been killed as the result of the fires,   
   > > riots, and shooting that has plagued this second largest American city.   
   > > The   
   > > death toll has risen following another night of violence and mayhem that   
   > > is   
   > > said, by some, to be the consequences for the acquittal of four L.A.P.D.   
   > > officers in Simi Valley, CA on Wednesday.   
   > >   
   > > The current totals of dead, injuried and damage done now exceed those   
   that   
   > > occured in 1965, when residents of the Watts section of Los Angeles   
   > > erupted   
   > > after the arrest of a black man by a white highway patrol officer.   
   > > Thirty-four (34) people died in the following six-days of chaos, 1,000   
   > > were   
   > > injuried, and $200 miilion dollars in damage was done. Older   
   eyewitnesses   
   > > say that the most current riots far exceed the days of the Watts riots,   
   > > both   
   > > in intensity and level of violence.   
   > >   
   > > As 4,000 regular Army troops and 1,000 federal law enforcement officers   
   > > move   
   > > into Los Angeles, people have begun to actually assess the severity of   
   > > this   
   > > latest day of "revolution". They find thirty-eight (38) people dead,   
   1,250   
   > > people injuried, 3,600 structural fires, hundreds of businesses looted   
   and   
   > > closed, and more than 3,000 people arrested. At least four (4) police   
   > > officers and three (3) firefighters have been shot and hundreds of other   
   > > injuried as they attempted to control the fires and lawlessness of the   
   > > past   
   > > three days.   
   > >   
   > > A "Dusk to Dawn" curfew has been imposed by Mayor Tom Bradley, in an   
   > > effort   
   > > to prevent citizens from congregating into the groups that have   
   controlled   
   > > the streets in recent days. The curfew also finally has "teeth" as 4,000   
   > > California National Guardsmen assist the police in securing areas of   
   > > previous violence. This evening, the National Guard Units were also   
   > > "federalized" by President Bush and supplemented by another 4,000 Army   
   and   
   > > Marine troops with orders to act as "Light-Infantry" and to "return fire   
   > > if   
   > > fired upon".   
   > >   
   > > Reports are received at the time of this report that authorities may be   
   > > gaining a tactical advantage and that, with the help of an added 9,000   
   law   
   > > enforcement and military personnel, the situation may be under control   
   by   
   > > the weekend. According to current reports, there have been fewer fires   
   and   
   > > shooting incidents since the curfew was instituted on Friday evening.   
   > >   
   > > The wave of destruction, which had spread from Southcentral Los Angeles   
   to   
   > > Downtown, to Pasadena, to Hollywood, and to Koreatown, has not always   
   > > seemed   
   > > just a response to the Rodney King verdict. Often in it's intensity, the   
   > > "rioting beast" did not pay attention to the race, color, or creed of   
   it's   
   > > victims; it struck indiscriminately. Early video tapes of the "rioters"   
   > > sometimes showed middle class white youths, street gang members, and   
   those   
   > > that have been associated with radical organizations such as the   
   American   
   > > Communist Party.   
   > >   
   > > Differing agendas seemed to be "at play" in differing circumstances.   
   Much   
   > > looting appeared to "opportunistic" in scope and origin. Entire families   
   > > were seen working together to steal from stores in their own   
   > > neighborhoods.   
   > > Often, what was being stolen was not of any necessity, but rather luxury   
   > > items such as designer gym shoes, radios, and starter jackets.   
   Frequently,   
   > > it just appeared that it was those "without" were taking from those   
   > > "with",   
   > > because they could.   
   > >   
   > > In other situations, the anger and frustration was expressed by pulling   
   > > white motorists from cars and trucks and brutally beating and kicking   
   > > them.   
   > > In one such case, Reginald Oliver Denny, was pulled from his truck as he   
   > > stopped to prevent hitting looters who filled the street. The incident   
   was   
   > > captured by a helicopter television news crew as it occured and was   
   > > broadcast live. Some viewers said that the violence that was portrayed   
   was   
   > > as "violent and sickening" as any that occured to Rodney King. Denny was   
   > > taken to Daniel Freeman Hospital after the furious beating, and has been   
   > > upgraded from critical to serious, following brain sugery to remove a   
   > > blood   
   > > clot.   
   > >   
   > > Arson was another way that some people vented their rage of various   
   kinds.   
   > > Fire Chief Donald Manning was quoted as saying that the Los Angeles Fire   
   > > Dept. has responded to more than 3,600 fires in the past three days.   
   > > Further, he commented that at given times during the past two days, the   
   > > L.A.F.D. was receiving calls for three (3) fires every minute. He said   
   > > that   
   > > this level of need for service far exceeded the department's ability to   
   > > respond and that this call volume was five (5) times that of normal.   
   > >   
   > > Manning said that additional fire units were called from all over   
   > > California   
   > > to help fight the conflagrations that spread through neighborhood after   
   > > neighborhood. Efforts were also reportedly hampered on numerous   
   occasions   
   > > by   
   > > sniper fire and direct confrontations against firefighters. One   
   > > firefighter   
   > > was quoted as saying yesterday; "I'd feel a lot more secure if they gave   
   > > me   
   > > a rifle". He was responding to the fact that at least three firefighters   
   > > have been reportedly shot while in the performance of their duties, and   
   > > that   
      
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