XPost: alt.atheism, alt.anarchism, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: sci.space.policy, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.french   
   From: echomko_at_@polaris.umuc.edu   
      
   Sokhraneet Nash Mir (CHM@Karlamov.com) wrote:   
      
   : "Free Lunch"  wrote in message   
   : news:guc552dt0lu95l66h527mt81s511pg1ck0@4ax.com...   
   : > On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 20:47:43 GMT, in alt.atheism   
   : > simberg.interglobal@org.trash (Rand Simberg) wrote in   
   : > <44767f20.117579800@news.giganews.com>:   
   : >   
   : > But France is very much part of Western Culture and our interests   
   : > normally coincide. Look how much better off the US would be if we had   
   : > listened to the French about Iraq instead of letting George "Saudi   
   : > religious radicals run my life" Bush, attack the one secular country   
   : > that scared the dictators of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Kuwait,   
   : > etc.   
      
   : France is more "Soviet" than the Soviet Union was.   
      
   And their "Iron Curtain" is? The rest of Europe?   
      
   : Everything is government subsidized...farmers, technology...even their   
   : movies are paid for by the government. They can't compete in the global   
   : marketplace without crutches. Take from the rich and give to the   
   : poor...basically it's communism, the lazy man's dream. America is all about   
   : if you work hard, you can achieve your dream. That's why so many European   
   : scientists move to the USA. The   
      
   That get paid on the US government dime!   
      
   : sit-around-and-do-nothing-and-get-paid-for-it mentality is European, it's   
   : not a part of American culture, by and large. The closest thing would be the   
   : American-born blacks that inherit crappy work ethic from their parents.   
      
   Right if those lazy blacks would only work, the all those Mexicans   
   wouldn't have jobs in the US, and thus wouldn't storm our borders.   
      
   : In the press, much lip-service has been paid to France's startling   
   : announcement of only 9.5% unemployment. In the USA, 9.5% would never be   
   : tolerated. What the press fails to mention is that the low unemployment is a   
   : sham. The reduced figure is due to the French gov paying for thousands of   
   : apprenticeships. That takes the people off the dole but there are no jobs   
   : for these new "experts" once they graduate. It's all smoke and mirrors.   
      
   : What America already went through back in the 1980's, Europe must learn now,   
   : kicking and screaming but face it they must, and will. It's not their   
   : choice.   
      
   : It is ironic though that the French are always so worried about American   
   : culture destroying their own, but it is their own citizens, the Muslims,   
   : that are eating away at French culture and society, from the inside out.   
      
   Yeah, all those youths in France burning cars and such are Muslims....NOT!   
      
   You have an interesting way of shaping and waeaving your bigotry into a   
   world-as-it-is situation.   
      
   Whereas, I am convinved that the whole world's problems are due to people   
   like "Sokhraneet Nash Mir" who complain rather than do anything.   
      
   Eric   
      
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