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   Peter Moylan to HenHanna   
   Re: [embonpoint] was once a completely p   
   16 Jun 24 19:41:21   
   
   XPost: sci.lang, alt.usage.english, soc.culture.french   
   From: peter@pmoylan.org   
      
   On 16/06/24 17:44, HenHanna wrote:   
   > On 6/16/2024 12:08 AM, Julien ÉLIE wrote:   
   >> Hi HenHanna,   
      
   >>> Outdated Conjugation:      "Doint" is an outdated conjugation of the   
   >>> verb "donner" (to give) in the third person singular form. In Old   
   >>> French, "doint" was used for the second-person singular "tu" pronoun   
   >>> (you).   
   >>   
   >> Do you have a reference for the use of "doint" for the second-person   
   >> singular "tu"?  I do not manage to find that explicit use.   
      
   Anyone with even a moderate knowledge of French would expect "tu doins"   
   rather than "tu doint". Still, it's an easy mistake for a non-native   
   speaker to make, especially when discussing a form that's no longer in use.   
      
   > Bard.Google.com  seems to agree (with my hunch) that   
   >   
   >          >>>   Yes, your sentence "Dieu te doint Santé bonne" uses   
   >                the informal "tu" pronoun ("te") when addressing God.   
   >   
   > but now i'm totally unsure about my hunch.   
      
   The "te" in that line is an *object* pronoun, and has nothing to do with   
   the subject "Dieu".   
      
   Bard.google.com sounds to me like an AI. Over here in alt.usage.english   
   we've seen plenty of evidence that statements by an AI cannot be   
   trusted. No doubt people in the other newsgroups have also noticed that.   
      
   Recent developments in AI technology have focused on getting output that   
   is _convincing_ rather than _correct_. I hope that Google is not   
   switching over to giving us plausible bullshit.   
      
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   Peter Moylan       peter@pmoylan.org    http://www.pmoylan.org   
   Newcastle, NSW   
      
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