XPost: soc.culture.french, uk.politics.misc, alt.politics   
   XPost: soc.culture.europe   
   From: bungle@bunghole.com   
      
   "abelard"  wrote in message   
   news:61bpmv8tlbvu7kise8akkomnagh5d9m94p@4ax.com...   
      
   >   
   > until you put away the rose coloureds....and start to examine the   
   >     behaviour of the french establishment with less naive prejudice....   
   >     you will continue not to understand the realite...   
      
      
      
   You would do well to do this... or that... or this... you don't understand   
   things how as they really are...   
      
   Could you elaborate on all this superior-sounding advice?  You're in danger   
   of looking pretentious.   
      
   >   
   > >Bush's administration simply doesn't have the political will to transfer   
   > >power to the Iraqis.   
   >   
   > you are now making it up as you go along....   
   > did they have the will to transfer power to germany....or japan.....   
   >           or france.....   
      
   Do you mean after the second world war?  You're being a bit obscure here.   
      
      
   >   
   > >Iraq has become a cash sink.  A billion dollars a week is going who knows   
   > >where.   
   >   
   > a trivial amount in the circumstances....   
      
   In some of the circumstances, yes.  In the particular circumstances of a   
   coming election and a deficit, not so trivial.   
      
   >   
   > >People with better knowledge than me of the intricacies of   
   > >electioneering suggest the roots lie in Bush's attempts to win the next   
   > >election; I wouldn't dare begin fathoming the reasons.   
   >   
   > you just did....   
   >   
   > > But if nothing else,   
   > >this futile waste of money should offend the Christian sensibilities of   
   the   
   > >Bush administration.   
   >   
   > 'waste' is a matter of judgement.....yours is trite....   
      
   Feel free to come down from what you seem to imagine are the lofty heights   
   and let us know *your* judgement.   
      
   >   
   > >People look up to America as a country young enough to believe that   
   pretty   
   > >much anything good is possible.  The European style of weary compromise   
   > >needs that American spirit as a counterbalance.  But accusing the French   
   of   
   > >causing Bush's problems isn't a youthfully optimistic step forward   
   towards a   
   > >brighter future.  It's the old immaturity, racism and superficiality of   
   the   
   > >playground.   
   >   
   > you're floundering.   
      
   Dear me, what an odd little fellow you seem to be.  A litany of   
   aah-you-have-no-judgements, oh-but-i'm-a-man-of-the-worlds and a few   
   insults.   
      
   Care to put some meat on those starved bones?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)