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|    Jiri Mr. to Rodrigo Calvo de No    |
|    Sudan - the West withdraws support for t    |
|    03 Jul 04 23:26:00    |
      XPost: soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.british       XPost: soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.czecho-slovak, soc.culture.yugoslavia       From: sure@sure.com              The genocide in Sudan?       LOL       This is 2004, and suddenly many talk about Sudan. I am amazed, but,       where was everybody back in 1999?       Here are some of my old pleas for help for Sudanese Christians from 5-7       years ago! These usenet posts have historical documentary value in that       they were ahead of their time, before media started paying Sudan some       attention. The funny thing is that all these pleas are set against the       background of the recent Balkan conflicts. The establishment monkeys of       the 90s like Clinton and Albright will not like the insinuations. By       now, this genocide has achieved many of its goals set by the radical       Islam, and for years tacitly supported by the West.       Even Vaclav Havel - hailed as moral authority in the West - was then       extolling the virtues of bombing Serbia, as perhaps the first ethical       bombing in history. Considering the magnitude of this genocide - Was it       a crime to divert attention from it by jousting windmills?              Five years ago in 1999, my opinion was that the International Community       was then practising persecution of Serbia, while allowing the Muslim       Arab genocide of Christian blacks in Sudan to proceed unhindered and       unprotested - in full knowledge of the facts. The western media were       preoccupied with anti-Serbian, and anti-Russian propaganda blitzes in       support of the insurgents and wahabists in Chechnya, and the muslim       insurgency in Kosovo. Saudi Arabia had earmarked one Billion dollars for       lobbying (euphemism for buying the media), and there was just no time       (nor Money!) to spare for even a mention of Sudan.       Hoary with age, my posts show that American and European blindness to       the genocide in Sudan was entirely self-imposed. Somewhat       incomprehensibly, it was German voices, which were most audible above       all others in the bomb-thirsty din. I say incomprehensibly, because of       what Germany had done to Serbia in WW1, and WWII, namely order the       killing of 1,000,000 Serbs. Should Germany not shy away from attacking a       nation, which it had subjected to a holocaust just practically yesterday       - the one nation (excepting Poles), which it had brought the closest to       total extinction?       (6,000,000 Jews was not near being 10% of the Jewish nation, whereas       1,000,000 Serbs was over 10% of their total number-sic)       How could Germany and others usurp the vitally important media for their       nefarious ends with regards to Serbia, and in so doing take away the       only chance the Sudanese blacks had had for international attention? Can       such an action be qualified as a crime - abetting genocide?              My stated feelings were that NATO's Balkan adventures might yet one day       lead to a Third World War, because Serbia is under the aegis of Russia.       If, and when Russia will one day have a government truly yilding to       Russian public opinion, the first thing it will do is demand the return       of stolen homes and territories to Serbs.       No matter how well US-EU-Russia relations and business will be doing, at       some unspecified future time Russia will engage in the act of       implementing liberation of territories stolen from Serbia by escalating       means. Let's pray that NATO does not cling to its unjust cause, or else       life on this wretched planet will almost certainly end once and for all.       For now, the West should accept thanks from beyond the grave of almost       two Million (estimates vary) dead black Sudanese Christians, whom it       helped put out of their misery. Now, they are better off in Heaven. It       gets no thanks from the countless thousands of formerly prosperous Serb       Bosnian villagers murdered by foreign fighter legions it allowed into       Bosnia from Afghanistan, Yemen, Chechnya, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc.       Serbs fought for their freedom, and for that we drag them through       international kangaroo courts today. And, yes, this applies to       Milosevic, as well. Certainly, he was unfairly singled out of the many       world leaders, who should all be at Haague, today.                     ****************************************************************       From: Jiri Mruzek (jirimruzek@lynx.bc.ca)       Date: 1999/10/15       !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!       Subject: Re: Hey hey ! (was Re: Kosovo & Western Media)       Newsgroups: bit.listserv.slovak-l, soc.culture.czecho-slovak               > You did not get the point. I say that NATO mission was        > a humanitarian one and that it is time to show the dictators all        > around the world that they cannot escape the responsibility for        > their crimes just invoking some treaties and principles from        > the cold war epoch.              Some of those principles had resulted from WWII. Your manner of speaking       seems to take good care of them..              So, when shall we intervene in Sudan,       ******************!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!       Mr. Kanala, and save millions of Blacks       ****************!!!!!********************       from death and slavery?       *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!       I, for one, sir, am all for it.       ********************************       Why do I stand alone?       !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!              Your talk about dictators encompasses the world, while you mean Serbia       alone. Serbia is Russia's awowed protege, so, lest one wishes to ignore       lessons taught us by two world wars, one should not engage in       brinksmanship, pitting the wills of the world's two greatest military       powers against each other.. For instance, do you know that Russian       parliament has authorized Yeltsin to stop the bombing of Serbia by ANY       means? Of course, they did not mean betrayal :)                     *************************************************************              From: Jiri Mruzek       Date: 1999/07/30       Subject: Re: What happened in Kosovo?       View: Complete Thread (56 articles)       Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada, talk.politics.misc, alt.journalism,       soc.culture.german, soc.culture.yugoslavia, soc.culture.russian,       soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.czecho-slovak              The ill-advised misadventure in Kosovo certainly seems to cause enough       turbulence to              keep the world's attention away from Sudan,       !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!       which is now the place most begging for our attention.       ***********************!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!       But, Kosovo has effectively created a strong public distaste worldwide,       for any and all outside interventions. It's a crime..                     *******************************************              From: Jiri Mruzek (jirimruzek@nospamshaw.ca)       Date: 2002-03-28 18:27:21 PST       Subject: Re: Benes Decrees       View: Complete Thread (208 articles)       Newsgroups: bit.listserv.slovak-l, soc.culture.czecho-slovak,       soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.german               > > Interesting, how the western and world media had lied to the public.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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