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   Your source is a complete LIE and REVISIONIST history, therefore 100%   
   FICTION.   
      
      
      
   "dandelion"  wrote in message   
   news:1100368982.mSAnRi5X7ma6grVpAOtbyw@teranews...   
   | It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even   
   | more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!   
   |   
   | Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the   
   | ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?   
   |   
   |   
   | On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb   
   |  wrote:   
   |   
   | >Newsgroups:   
   |   
    >soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.   
   ulture.polish,soc.culture.germany   
   | >On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:   
   | >51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis   
   | >   
   | >September 2004, page 86   
   | >Book Review   
   | >51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis   
   | >By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:   
   | >$15.   
   | >   
   | >Reviewed by Sara Powell   
   | >It’s no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance   
   | >the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native   
   | >inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,   
   | >Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few   
   | >limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little   
   | >coverage in the American media.   
   | >   
   | >Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters,   
   | >statements, articles, and judgements—some of which appeared in his   
   | >earlier   
   | >book—by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents Zionist   
   | >cooperration with the Nazis.   
   | >   
   | >On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner   
   | >presents the case—made in many Zionists’ own words—that the Nazi   
   | >agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist   
   | >plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a   
   | >new Jewish nation.   
   | >   
   | >In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is   
   | >organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,   
   | >pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the   
   | >Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.   
   | >Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of   
   | >collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to   
   | >others written in response.   
   | >   
   | >These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists and   
   | >fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini’s Italy.   
   | >Brenner’s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document   
   | >are helpful, as are the glossary and index.   
   | >   
   | >51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and   
   | >requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part   
   | >of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,   
   | >are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists   
   | >eschewed the boycott against Hitler’s Germany, for instance, is that   
   | >they had a financial deal—Ha’avara—with Germany allowing Jews to   
   | >exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of   
   | >a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists   
   | >today are so organized and experienced in their public relations   
   | >efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,   
   | >the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of “nationality” versus   
   | >citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the   
   | >same concept.   
   | >   
   | >51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term “Holocaust   
   | >guilt,” frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for   
   | >not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents   
   | >make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made   
   | >the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place   
   | >Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their   
   | >threatened European brethren.   
   | >   
   | >From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.   
   | >18, 1943:   
   | >   
   | >And when some asked me: “Can’t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod   
   | >(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?” I said:   
   | >“No!” And again I say no....And, because of these things, people   
   | >called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I’m guilty, for the fact   
   | >that we don’t give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)   
   | >   
   | >However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather   
   | >disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this   
   | >reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align   
   | >themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race   
   | >as an important dividing line—and, moreover, were determined to keep   
   | >it that way.   
   | >   
   | >From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,“assimilation” of Jews   
   | >into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable option.   
   | >Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level, not   
   | >a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, “It is impossible for a man   
   | >to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his   
   | >own”   
   | >(p. 10); in Einstein’s words, “Palestine is first and foremost not a   
   | >refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening   
   | >sense of national solidarity” (p. 29).   
   | >   
   | >Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the   
   | >following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was   
   | >delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.   
   | >   
   | >3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and   
   | >totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be   
   | >in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German   
   | >position of power in the Near East (p. 301).   
   | >   
   | >Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.   
   | >Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such   
   | >differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference—and,   
   | >therefore, racial supremacy—were practiced around the world.   
   | >   
   | >Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that   
   | >Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis   
      
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