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   From: hendrik.bendt@web.de   
      
   "Count 1"  wrote in message   
   news:blulsd$gf2gv$1@ID-130993.news.uni-berlin.de...   
   >   
   > Sorry peter...Europeans have no pedestal to stand on comparing media.  In   
   > North America there are literally hundreds of media outlets ranging from   
   > extremely left to extremely right.   
      
   okay. but obviously some people don't value that diverse information sources   
   enough. I just had the expression that 'none' can't handle it very well   
   because he called it propagandy, wich is the wrong word.   
      
   and yes. you might have even more extreme media, I don't know. but I have   
   the impression that the main media is more or less conform, don'T you think?   
   critics are much more in danger of losing reputation or job by being   
   non-conform.   
      
      
   > BTW - can you dismiss the article on its merits rather than attacking   
   > 'none'? Is it reasonable to assume that Germans have a different view of   
   > this conflict than Americans based largely on the rumblings of the German   
   > media?  And has the German media been concerned with portraying a balanced   
   > view?   
      
      
   I actually don'T think it comes from the media. it's the people here, that   
   think different. here it wasn't clear why after years of saddam there's   
   suddenly not the time to wait for a couple of months and check out other   
   concepts. we didn'T believe there was a threat from Iraq that justified war.   
      
   I don't think it is a conflict between Germans and Americans. it is a   
   conflict between Germans and American politics, embodied by Mr. Bush and his   
   colleagues. look at rumsfeld or bush with their aggressive rhetoric. they   
   couln't convince europe with that.   
      
   I think people here are not very impressed by Mr. Bush. remember the show on   
   the aircraft carrier. Personally, I think that was so ridiculous. I really   
   had to laugh about him. I don't know people here, that can take Bush for   
   serious.   
   About the American people all I can say is that we do not understand why   
   they back up their president that much when he actually has nothing in his   
   hands.   
   why do they?   
      
   maybe it's the fear of terror in their own country.   
      
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