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   Message 473 of 611   
   harmony to Kallu Mallu   
   Re: India's wealth in the past   
   30 Jan 09 11:34:17   
   
   XPost: alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian, uk.politics   
   From: aka@hotmail.com   
      
   "Kallu Mallu"  wrote in message   
   news:glv9lc$mk7$1@news.motzarella.org...   
   > Rod Speed wrote:   
   >> Stray Dog wrote   
   >>> Rod Speed  wrote   
   >>>> visualseeplus@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >>>>> Chetan  wrote   
   >>   
   >>>>>> Spices belong to a category of items which were unique to India -   
   >>>>>> not found that easily elsewhere. What a country is famous for and   
   >>>>>> what it makes most money exporting are two different things, even   
   >>>>>> today. It is unlikely spices alone would have amounted to so much in   
   >>>>>> value   
   >>>>>> that kings become interested in trading it. Textiles were not the   
   >>>>>> only other item being exported out of India. Most items of luxury -   
   >>>>>> pearls, fragrences, rich fabric, ivory, precious stones - these are   
   >>>>>> the items which can be called "riches". A casual web search on   
   >>>>>> ancient India exports shows up many links listing the items of   
   >>>>>> value. Quality silk was and still is being produced in India,   
   >>>>>> although China was the most famous for it. Finest cotton was being   
   >>>>>> produced in India.   
   >>>>> India and indeed all of Asia was a looting ground for resrouces and   
   >>>>> more so labor for all European countries during the age of   
   >>>>> colonialism.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> When British talked about the 'jewel of the empire', it is not   
   >>>>> Canada, Australia nor Africa all of which are equally rich in   
   >>>>> natural resources but not labor.  If you chart India's economic   
   >>>>> progress   
   >>>>> after being robbed by the British, it is essentially a 150 year   
   >>>>> recession.   
   >>   
   >>>>> India represented 30 to 40% of world GDP prior to British invasion   
   >>   
   >>>> Like hell it did.   
   >>   
   >>> visualseeplus is right.   
   >>   
   >> Like hell he is.   
   >>   
   >>> Before the industrial revolution   
   >>   
   >> Soorree, that aint when the british invasion of india happened.   
   >>   
   >>> (mostly England/western europe/USA) Asia did represent maybe even 2/3 of   
   >>> world GDP.   
   >>   
   >> Pity that it didnt AT THE TIME OF THE BRITISH INVASION OF INDIA.   
   >>   
   >>> I saw this in an economics article in The Financial Times back about 1-2   
   >>> years ago.   
   >>   
   >> But are so stupid that you cant manage to grasp that that wasnt the   
   >> situation AT THE TIME OF THE BRITISH INVASION OF INDIA.   
   >>   
   >>>>> and just under 1% after it left.   
   >>>> There is just the tiny matter of the industrial revolution etc.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Almost all the surplus of the country was siphoned off to enrich   
   >>>>> the west.   
   >>>> Pig ignorant lie.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> The lifespan of the average Indian after the British left was 32   
   >>>>> yrs old.   
   >>>> Pity about what it was before they showed up.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> The only good news is that the effect of this massive plunder   
   >>>>> has slowly begun to reverse itself in recent years.   
   >>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant   
   >>>> fantasys.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > I do agree with Rod Speed. One of the writers was not very precise about   
   > the time period when India's contribution was 30-40% world GDP. This was   
   > probably before the 10-11th century (way before the Brits arrived). From   
   > the 11th century until the arrival of the Mughals (14th-15th cent.?), the   
   > economy started to decline, albeit slowly (one does not have to ponder   
   > deeply on the reasons for the decline). Under the Mughals the decline was   
   > pretty rapid. The Brits inherited a highly weakened economy, but still   
   > sizable enough for further decimation. :-)   
   >   
   > That said, I do not have any "pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant   
   > fantasys [sic]" about a India's future being brighter as she rebuilds from   
   > centuries of depredation.   
      
   this information pretty much is in accord with what i heard in a   
   presentation by a learned professor at a conference. actually, he depicted   
   india's gdp down from the "dark ages" (aka pre-mommedan or pre-kirastani   
   time) with data and colorful charts and graphs. gdp during english time was   
   less than one pct. - which however does not include all the british loot   
   shipped out to britain. modern india's biggest 3 problems are: corruption,   
   population   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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