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   Message 97,819 of 99,776   
   Fred J. McCall to Adam Whyte-Settlar   
   Re: Two Posts????   
   29 Nov 14 16:32:06   
   
   From: fjmccall@gmail.com   
      
   Adam Whyte-Settlar  wrote:   
      
   >   
   >> > The US has the worst value health care system in the western world too.   
   >>   
   >> It's the same here. If you are poor or unemployed, or stay in one room or   
   >> even if you are a refugee, you still get free health care, I meant income   
   >> taxes are high when you work, but if you don't work, you wouldnt pay income   
   >> tax.   
   >   
   >That's good. So what is all the talk about 46 million Americans not having   
   health insurance about then?   
   >Is that not true   
   >   
      
   That's right.  It's not true.  Or at the very least it's at least a   
   distortion of the facts.   
      
   1) Your number isn't right.  As best it can be determined, the number   
   was around 41 million prior to the ACA.  But you being only 15% off is   
   probably the best we can hope for.   
      
   2) Public hospital Emergency Rooms treat all comers, whether they have   
   insurance or not.  So a big chunk of that 'uninsured' still have   
   always had access to health care.   
      
   3) Around 20% of the 'uninsured' also aren't Americans.  That brings   
   us down to around 37 million Americans uninsured prior to ACA.   
      
   4) A big chunk of that 'uninsured' are uninsured by choice because   
   they're young and healthy and paying for health insurance is a net   
   economic lose for them.  This is why part of the ACA is FORCING those   
   people to buy health insurance.  Their premiums subsidize those for   
   the sicker folks.  That's a group that would be better off getting   
   catastrophic care insurance and not bothering with regular health   
   insurance, but if they exercise that option now the government 'taxes'   
   them.   
      
      
      
   >   
   >Can't be arsed linking to all the various cites but you know I'm not making   
   this up.   
   >   
      
   You never can.  And if you can't be bothered to provide actual support   
   for your remarks, I can't be bothered to believe you have any clue   
   what you're nattering on about.   
      
   --   
   "Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the   
    truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."   
                                  -- Thomas Jefferson   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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