From: fjmccall@gmail.com   
      
   Fred J. McCall  wrote:   
      
   >Adam Whyte-Settlar  wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>> > The US has the worst value health care system in the western world too.   
   >>>   
   >>> It's the same here. If you are poor or unemployed, or stay in one room or   
   >>> even if you are a refugee, you still get free health care, I meant income   
   >>> taxes are high when you work, but if you don't work, you wouldnt pay income   
   >>> tax.   
   >>   
   >>That's good. So what is all the talk about 46 million Americans not having   
   health insurance about then?   
   >>Is that not true   
   >>   
   >   
   >That's right.  It's not true.  Or at the very least it's at least a   
   >distortion of the facts.   
   >   
   >1) Your number isn't right.  As best it can be determined, the number   
   >was around 41 million prior to the ACA.  But you being only 15% off is   
   >probably the best we can hope for.   
   >   
   >2) Public hospital Emergency Rooms treat all comers, whether they have   
   >insurance or not.  So a big chunk of that 'uninsured' still have   
   >always had access to health care.   
   >   
   >3) Around 20% of the 'uninsured' also aren't Americans.  That brings   
   >us down to around 37 million Americans uninsured prior to ACA.   
   >   
      
   Math in public.  Make that 33 million Americans uninsured prior to   
   ACA.   
      
   >4) A big chunk of that 'uninsured' are uninsured by choice because   
   >they're young and healthy and paying for health insurance is a net   
   >economic lose for them.  This is why part of the ACA is FORCING those   
   >people to buy health insurance.  Their premiums subsidize those for   
   >the sicker folks.  That's a group that would be better off getting   
   >catastrophic care insurance and not bothering with regular health   
   >insurance, but if they exercise that option now the government 'taxes'   
   >them.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >>Can't be arsed linking to all the various cites but you know I'm not making   
   this up.   
   >>   
   >   
   >You never can.  And if you can't be bothered to provide actual support   
   >for your remarks, I can't be bothered to believe you have any clue   
   >what you're nattering on about.   
      
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