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|    Past thoughts on Climate (1/4)    |
|    09 Dec 14 18:28:56    |
      From: KnewsKgnus@gmail.com              Now, lets look into the motivational background of a few typical players       in the green climate movement.              On their love for the human race:              Paul Ehrlich, professor, Stanford University: “A cancer is an uncontrolled       multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled       multiplication of people. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of       the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer.” John Holdren, now       President Obama’s science czar made this statement before taking on that       role: “There exists ample authority under which population growth could be       regulated…It has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws,       even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained       under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became       sufficiently severe to endanger the society.”              Ted Turner, billionaire, founder of CNN and major UN donor: “A total       population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels,       would be ideal.”              David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!: “My three main goals would be       to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the       industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of       species, returning throughout the world.”              David Brower, a founder of the Sierra Club: “Childbearing should be a       punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government       license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive       chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for       childbearing.”              Thoughts on cheap power              Cheap power is the ultimate lever for multiplying human effort and       productivity. The end of worldwide slavery can be directly tied to the       advent of steam power, and the availability of cheap electrical power was       a key enabler for the creation of a large middle class and the advancement       of women’s rights, among many other profoundly positive sociological       changes. What do key green players think about cheap power?              Paul Ehrlich, professor, Stanford University: “Giving society cheap,       abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine       gun.”              Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation: “The prospect of cheap fusion       energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet.”              “Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would       necessarily skyrocket. Coal powered plants, you know, natural gas, you       name it, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would       have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass       that money on to consumers.”              -Presidential candidate Barack Obama, January 2008              With that background in mind, here are some quotes from before 1970, the       70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s. Recognize any of the players? Care to guess       if the world has suffered any of the projected climate disasters?                            Before 1970              The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some       places the seals are finding the water too hot…. Reports from fishermen,       seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in       climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic       zone… Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and       stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers       have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in       the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have       never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal       fishing grounds. -Washington Post 11/2/1922              Scientist says Arctic ice will wipe out Canada, Professor Gregory of Yale       University stated that “another world ice-epoch is due.” He was the       American representative to the Pan-Pacific Science Congress and warned       that North America would disappear as far south as the Great Lakes, and       huge parts of Asia and Europe would be “wiped out.” –Chicago Tribune       August 9, 1923              The discoveries of changes in the sun’s heat and southward advance of       glaciers in recent years have given rise to the conjectures of the       possible advent of a new ice age -Time Magazine 9/10/1923              America in longest warm spell since 1776; temperature line records a 25       year rise – New York Times 3/27/1933              A mysterious warming of the climate is slowly manifesting itself in the       Arctic, engendering a “serious international problem,” -New York Times –       May 30, 1947              Greenland’s polar climate has moderated so consistently that communities       of hunters have evolved into fishing villages. Sea mammals, vanishing from       the west coast, have been replaced by codfish and other fish species in       the area’s southern waters. -New York Times August 29, 1954              After a week of discussions on the causes of climate change, an assembly       of specialists from several continents seems to have reached unanimous       agreement on only one point: it is getting colder. -New York Times –       January 30, 1961              Like an outrigger canoe riding before a huge comber, the earth with its       inhabitants is caught on the downslope of an immense climatic wave that is       plunging us toward another Ice Age.              -Los Angeles Times December 23, 1962 The battle to feed humanity is over.       In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines. Hundreds of millions of       people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs       embarked upon now. – Paul Ehrlich – The Population Bomb (1968)              It is now pretty clearly agreed that the CO2 content [in the atmosphere]       will rise 25% by 2000. This could increase the average temperature near       the earth’s surface by              7 degrees Fahrenheit. This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10       feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter. -Presidential       adviser Daniel Moynihan, 1969 (later Sen. [D] from New York 1976-2000)              From the 70s              “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to       support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have       to wear gas masks to survive air              pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight       reaching earth by one half….” -Life Magazine, January 1970              “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time       before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land       will be usable.” -Kenneth Watt, Ecologist              “If present trends continue, the world will be … eleven degrees colder by       the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice       age.” -Kenneth E.F. Watt in “Earth Day,” 1970.                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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