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   soupdragon to The Doctor   
   Re: IF the vote for independence   
   10 May 15 08:43:37   
   
   From: me@privacy.net   
      
   doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) wrote in   
   news:miillg$g2q$1@ns2.nl2k.ab.ca:   
      
   > In article ,   
   > Nicholas Benjamin   wrote:   
   >>On Thursday, May 7, 2015 at 10:39:08 PM UTC-4, The Other Guy wrote:   
   >>> Were to be today, I'd expect a DIFFERENT outcome..   
   >>>=20   
   >>> SNP has taken 26 seats from Labor so far, and it's beginning=20   
   >>> to look like a clean sweep across Scotland.   
   >>   
   >>Doubt it.   
   >>   
   >>For one thing, it's a three-party system in Scotland. If the SNP is   
   >>getting=   
   >> 45% (like it has in the past few elections), but the LibDems and   
   >> Labor are= splitting the remainder then the SNP dominates. The Exit   
   >> Polls I've seen t=   
   >>hus far don't show the percentages, so there's no way to know whether   
   >>the S= NP is at it's recent average of 45% or has gone past 50%.   
   >>   
   >>Moreover, secessionist movements frequently have soft supporters who   
   >>don't = actually want to leave the country, but do want the central   
   >>government to m= ake concessions.   
   >>   
   >>Nick   
   >   
   > SNP sweeps Sctoland with the others getting 1 seat each.   
      
   And, just to clarify. The Scottish parliament has 5 parties, not 3. It   
   did have 6 until Sheriden's SSP went into melt down. UKIP have made no   
   headway in Scotland and have no representatives, so they don't count   
      
   Additionally, the previous poster seems to be using the American   
   experience of seccession, rather than the European one to make a   
   sweeping generalisation about their make up.   
      
   In the referendum, 45% voted for independance. In the election, 50%   
   voted for SNP. If the previous assertion is true then effect, 90% want   
   to leave and the 'soft support' is minimal.   
      
   Sturgeon is using her block vote to extract more power from Westminster   
   beyond the Smith Commission, but that's just another step towards her   
   goal of full independance and, if she gets full fiscal autonomy, gives   
   her an opportunity to test the strength of the Scottish economy in   
   preparation for another indyref.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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