From: firstname@lastname.oc.ku   
      
   On 5/10/2015 5:19 PM, Nicholas Benjamin wrote:   
      
   > Which American experience re: secession are you talking about?   
   > There has never been an independence referendum of any sort in any US State   
    > ever. The Confederates had a completely separate legal procedure   
   involving   
   > specially elected conventions. If they'd tried a referendum they would have   
   > lost because they were seceding to protect slavery from evil Abe Lincoln,   
   > and roughly 40% of their populations were slaves.   
      
   ???   
   I don't get your point. The slaves couldn't vote. (Neither did white   
   women.) Slaves didn't even count as full people for census purposes.   
      
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