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|    lizpikewheeler@gmail.com to JLWY...@aol.com    |
|    Re: WHERLAND-SEYMOUR-SOMMERFUL-DEANE-ARC    |
|    24 Apr 18 14:06:46    |
      On Wednesday, February 4, 1998 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, JLWY...@aol.com wrote:       > I am looking for any information about my husband's ancestor, an Irish sea       > captain named Frederick Wherland, b. 1834? in England or Ireland. His mother       > was the daughter of a Lord Seymour, and his father was a colonel in the       > English Army.       >       > Appx. 1859(?) Capt. Wherland married the daughter (No first name given) of a       > Sir Thomas Deane of Cork, Ireland. She was born appx. 1849?: Her mother was       a       > Sommerful, daughter of a Lord Sommerful. They had several children, many       born       > on while on voyages:       >       > Fred Wherland, died at age 7 months.       > Sarah "Sally" Wherland, born May 22nd, 1861, LONDON       > John Neptune Wherland, born while crossing the equator       > Willie Wherland, born in Bombay, India       > Fred Wherland, born while his father's ship was "doubling the 'horn'"       > Frank Wherland, born at Birkenhead, Liverpool       > Herbert Wherland, born on Telegraph Hill, San Francisco, the day the great       > fire broke out in 1906.       >       > This is the information I have from a book written by his ggGrandmother,       Sally       > Archer-Burton.       >       > Some of the ships Captain Wherland sailed were:       >       > Columbine...on shipping voyages to Peru, India, America. He sailed the       > Columbine for many years.       >       > Tudor...."carried about 1500 passengers, 700 cabins, the rest steerage, 40       > sailors, , first and second mate and third mate, and the captain's men." The       > Tudor burned while carrying a load of cotton to Peru. It had an iron mast.       > The family was rescued by a Captain Fred Linstaedt, who also later moved to       > Fairmont, Minnesota, USA.       >       >       >       > The Galatea.....built in Glasgow Scotland. Building of the ship was       > supervised by Captain Wherland. I have the date 1870 for her first voyage,       to       > Australia, around to San Francisco, home by Marseilles back to Liverpool. It       > was the Galatea that they travelled on in 1906 to San Francisco, when the       > Telegraph Hill fire broke out.       >       > The family emmigrated from England to New York to Fairmont, Minnesota, on The       > National line, sailed by a Captain Webster. The ship left England on June       17,       > 1876.       >       > I noticed that the time frame doesn't make sense, since the youngest brother       > was supposedly born in 1906 on a voyage, even though the Captain supposedly       > gave up sailing and emmigrated in 1876. ????       >       >       > Captain Wherland sailed for a line owned by a Mr. S. R. Graves, First Lord of       > the Admiralty. This is according to a book written by Capt. Wherland's       > daughter, Sally, who married a Lenny Archer-Burton.       >       > Other names mentioned in her book:       >       > Another daughter of Sir THOMAS DEANE married a frenchman, surname LE PAN,       also       > a sea captain.       > Sally attended school in CORK, IRE, and finished at MILLROSE COTTAGE,       > Birkenhead, Liverpool, a school conducted by a Miss Hayes.       >       > Captain Wherland had a brother named James WHERLAND, and his country home was       > called OLDWOOD, a large estate. James was a doctor at MillRose Cottage       > school.       >       > There was an Uncle Lyster in Australia, probably Melbourne, but she does not       > indicate if he was her mother or father's brother, so it could have been       > either Wherland or Deane.       >       >       > If you have any info that would help me, I'd appreciate an email.       >       > Thank you,       >       > Julie       > JLWychor@aol.com              I can provide some information as I live in Fairmont, Minn., where Wherland       lived (and Archer-Burton is buried). Our local history museum has a lot of       items from his home, too. Not sure if this email is still valid for you,       though.              Liz              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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