From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Thu, 3 May 2018 12:05:49 -0700 (PDT), Martin Beavis   
    wrote:   
      
   On Thursday, 3 May 2018 06:29:51 UTC+1, Steve Hayes  wrote:   
   > I've veen battling with one of the most intractable genealogixal   
   > problems I've come across for a long time.   
   >   
   Having looked at the 1841 & 1851 census images there are no   
   mistranscriptions, at least not on Ancestry.  In 1861 & 1871 the   
   unmarried sisters Sarah SIMS (36 & 47)  and Mary SIMS (30 & 40) are   
   still living at West End, as they were in 1841 & 1851.  In 1881 Mary   
   47 is visiting her niece Lydia MITCHELL who is probably the niece   
   Lydia MART from 1861 and 1871.  In 1891 Mary is 60 and the Aunt of   
   Lydia PUGH in a household with MITCHELL stepchildren.  Apart from 47   
   in 1881, that is consistent (+/-1) with Mary's birth between April   
   1829 and March 1830 and her ages of 10 in mid-1841 (which may have   
   been erroneously rounded down) and 22 in April 1851.   
      
   FamilySearch has Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers for   
   Mary Sims, Birth Date 26 Feb 1826, Christening 3 Dec 1826, Wirksworth,   
   Derbyshire, Father Samuel Sims, Mother Elizabeth Sims.  [Derbyshire,   
   Church of England Parish Registers & England Births and Christenings].   
   The images are only available at an FHS, not free online.   
      
   That discrepancy might suggest  the death of the Mary born 1826 prior   
   to the birth of the Mary in the censuses.  There are two such deaths   
   in 1826/7 but in Chesterfield and apparently naming non-Samuel   
   fathers.  It makes no sense that Mary's parents knocked 3 or 4 years   
   off her census ages.   
      
   Ancestry has the 1826 Mary in a Sims family tree but gives no further   
   details of Mary except for the 1841-1871 censuses.  That tree has   
   Samuel 1781-1829 and Elizabeth 1790-1855, with children born between   
   1814 and 1830, the last one after his father's death, none of which   
   have I attempted to check or verify.   
      
   Ancestry has [Derbyshire, England, Church of England Burials]  Samuel   
   Sims,  Age 47,  Birth Year 1782, Burial Date 9 Dec 1829, Wirksworth,   
   Derbyshire, which differs from the 1788-1838 in your query.   
      
   Just in case your SIMS family may have become nonconformist shortly   
   before 1830, see also   
   http://belper-research.com/summaries/baptism-index.html and related   
   pages.   
      
   Perhaps half the problem is you yourself Steve, for being far more   
   numerate than your original data providers!   
      
   Martin Beavis   
      
      
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