On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 7:15:55 PM UTC-7, b.l.lo...@gmail.com wrote:   
   > On Thursday, December 30, 1999 at 1:00:00 AM UTC-7, James Falkner wrote:   
   > > Throughout the American history of the family, the name appears as   
   > > McMurtry, McMurtrey, McMurtrie and McMurtree. According to our family   
   > > tradition, five brothers came to America about/before 1720 and founded   
   > > the McMurtry family on this side of the Atlantic.  We now know that   
   > > there were three brothers, Joseph, Thomas and Robert and two sisters   
   > > (one probably named Hannah) with their husbands James Hanna and Robert   
   > > Houey. A probable cousin, Alexander, joined them later.  My family is   
   > > descended from Joseph.  One of the brothers (not our Joseph) was   
   > > married at the time of their arrival in America. Joseph died 2 Jun   
   > > 1761, Oxford Township, New Jersey.  Also, it has been passed down that   
   > > one of the three McMurtrie/McMurtry brothers, not our Joseph, returned   
   > > to Scotland to reclaim the family estate, lands and castle but found   
   > > that it had been seized by the Crown.  To this day, the reason remains   
   > > unknown.   
   > > Sibling details:   
   > > 1. Joseph MCMURTRY b. 1685, Dalmellington, Ayrshire, Scotland.  Some   
   > > researchers claim that Joseph was born in Northern Ireland.  I have   
   > > his will. In the original Gaelic, it was spelled MacMuirceartach.  The   
   > > McMurtry's are not a clan but a sept of the clan Stewart of Bute.   
   > > 2. Thomas MCMURTRY was born about 1700.  He died in 1788 in Bernards   
   > > Township, Somerset County, New Jersey.    
   > > 3. Robert MCMURTRIE was born about 1710.  He died before 6 Sep 1777 in   
   > > Sussex County, New Jersey.   
   > > 4. (Female/sister #1) was married to James HANNA.   
   > > 5. Hannah MCMURTRY was married to Robert HOUEY.   
   > >    
   > > Is this family familiar to anyone?  /Jim Falkner, son of Marguerite   
   > > McMurtry.   
   >    
   > This family is familiar to me because it is the family WE ARE NOT related   
   to, even though an earlier genealogy (done I think in the late 1800's) which   
   mistakenly connected this family to a Joseph McMurtrie born 1772 in the USA   
   who himself cannot be    
   traced to Scotland.  The wording you give sounds like the wording that comes   
   from the book that gave the mistaken geneaology - a book called "one Man's   
   family" written by (I think) Ira Brown.  The rest of that book traces the 1772   
   USA McMurtrie to the    
   present.   
      
   I am able to trace back from my great-great grandfather Benjamin Franklin   
   McMurtry (b: 1930, Alabama)  who died at the age of 28 years on 7 Jan 1859 in   
   Mendocino County, California about 20 miles from where I currently live.  He   
   was the son of Price    
   McMurtry (b: 1795, Kentucky) the son of William McMurtry (b:  1752,   
   Virginia)and grandson of James McMurtry (b: 1727, New Jersey).  It was James   
   father Joseph(b: 1685, Dalmellington, Ayshire Co, Scotland) who immigrated to   
   the United States in 1712.     
   James was the son of Thomas McMurtrie (b: 12 Mar 1662, Straiton, Ayrshire,   
   Scotland) and Jean Mcwalter.  What I was looking at is the common thread when   
   James Falkner referenced the 3 brothers "Joseph, Thomas and Robert" since I   
   descend from the brother    
   Joseph who died on 17 May 1762, the same person referenced by James Falkner.    
   I realize that according to my DNA I have a significant % of Irish and   
   Scottish genes but one IO get to Thomas McMurtrie I have difficulty tracing.    
   I thought that there    
   referenced will might be helpful tracking heirs if there was a translation.   
      
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