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   A Lefevre to All   
   Eliza Maria, Family Tree   
   12 Aug 18 21:26:51   
   
   From: lefev@freeuk.com   
      
     I wonder if we might have a bit of genealogy for a change?   
      
   A year or so ago  Ancestry family trees had about a dozen which   
   included Eliza Maria   
   Lefever. They are down  to three now, but are still wrong. Earlier   
   this   
   year, working with another searcher I traced Eliza Maria back another   
   two   
   generations, so perhaps this is a good time to put things right.   
      
    Eliza Maria Lefever was born 15 Sep 1854, Princes St Bethnal Green.   
   Baptised 8 Oct St Matthias. Her parents were William and Elizabeth.   
   This is   
   the first time I saw Elizabeth shown as Betsy. This wasn't the   
   Elizabeth   
   Hunsdon that everyone showed, she married the William who was born in   
   Yorkshire, they lived in Bethnal Green, no children and both died in   
   1863.   
      
   William and Elizabeth Kendrick were married 30 Oct 1845, All Saints   
   Stepney.   
   Elizabeth was born in Liverpool, the father of each was William. This   
   is   
   eight years after their first child was born.   
      
   William Francis born 27 Jan 1837 bapt 11 June St Leonard Shoreditch.   
   Isaac was the next, born 22 Mar 1839, birth registered, but no   
   baptism. I   
   assumed this is because their house at 4 Angel Alley was demolished at   
   that   
   time with a wide area, to clear the way for the railway to come down   
   from   
   Shoreditch to Liverpool St.   
   Next, David, born Dec 1841, Registered, but not baptised.   
   Next was Elizabeth Louisa, born 27 Nov 1843, not registered, but bapt   
   10 Dec   
   and died 23 Dec 1843. I assume this was "baptised in mortal danger."   
   James was next, registered Jun 1846 but no baptism   
   Then Charles Samuel born 25 Aug 1851, registered and baptised 14 Sep   
   1851,   
   St Matthias and died Sep 1852. Was this another "baptised in mortal   
   danger?"   
   No indication at this point who was William, the father.   
      
   In the general area there two other groups that I felt were connected   
   but   
   couldn't see how. There was a William, married Ann Crudgington 1810.   
   They   
   had one daughter the previous year and a second, Mary Ann in 1812.   
   Both   
   girls were baptised 1812 in St Leonard. That first daughter was Louisa   
   Deborah. That, to me, seemed to resonate with Elizabeth Louisa.   
      
    There was Ann Lefevre a widow, married David Baron 10 Apr 1823   
   They had 3 children, Hannah b. 1826, Thomas 1829 and Francis David, 21   
   Apr 1834   
   They were all baptised 13 July 1834   
    In her examinations in 1860 and 1861 she is Amelia Ann Barron, widow,   
   and   
   states her first Husband was William Lefevre and that his father was   
   David   
   Lefevre, a Master Tailor, who was passed from this parish (Bethnal   
   Green)   
   with three children to St Sepulchre, Newgate.   
      
   A David Lefevre married Lucy Harman 1773 in Cambridge   
   3 Children: Thomas 5 Apr 1775 Cambridge   
               Henry 28 Apr 1783 St Sepulchre   
               Ann   24 Aug 1785 St Sepulchre   
     A William Lefevre died 1819, aged 27 and is buried in Gibralter   
   Gardens, a   
   non-conformist burial ground. So born c.1792. No further sign of Lucy   
   so my guess   
   is that she died, and David just didn't arrange a baptism   
      
    A William Lefevre b.1815 and an Isaac b.1817are brothers, appeared at   
   the Old Bailey   
    Isaac was sent to Australia and William went to prison for six months   
      
    They fit in as the sons of William and Ann Crudgington.   
    It leaves a problem, if a man wasn't baptised was burial in church   
   grounds not allowed?   
    If a man was not baptised, could his sons not be baptised, but his   
   daughters could?   
      
    I've not found burials for any of William's sons. Isaac the informant   
   of death   
   was the doctor in the infirmary, not unusual, but this was 1 week   
   after death, when   
   there would normally have been a burial, as the family lived nearby   
   why not one of them?   
   There doesn't seem anything unusual about the death, bronchitis, he   
   had been   in the infirmary previously for the same.   
      
      
    Regards, Alec Lefevre   
      
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   A Lefevre   
      
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