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|    Re: Change of surname - is there a resou    |
|    21 Aug 18 11:21:46    |
      From: john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr              On 20/08/2018 05:53, sascar70@gmail.com wrote:       > Hi all,       >       > One of my ancestors changed his surname and married the woman who gave birth       to his daughter. This daughter took the new surname of her father even though       she was registered under his former name.       >       > My cousin and I have been chasing this fellow for about 12 years until just       recently when she put in the wife's surname in Birmingham and found the       marriage.       >       > We are in the process of purchasing the marriage certificate but was       wondering if there was a source we could look at.       >       > My ancestor was Alfred Frederick Esse (b 1868)who had a child with Annie       Agnes Gough in 1890 but did not marry then. He married an Ethel Cannon (b       1875) and had two children with her in 1899 and 1900 then he promptly fell off       the face of the earth        until recently found with a new name.       >       > Alfred also lied about his age by -10 years at the time of his marriage to       Annie.       >       > Any advice or information will be greatly appreciated.       >       > Thanks and regards,       > Di       >              I do not understand your query or whether you are looking at the correct       people?              What was       a) the name of the woman who gave birth to his daughter the changes in       surname       b)the new surname of the daughter who took the surname of her father       even though she was registered under his former name?              There is no FreeBMD marriage record for an Annie Agnes Gough to an       Alfred Frederick so where did you get: Alfred also lied about his age by       -10 years at the time of his marriage to Annie       FreeBMD has an Annie Agnes Gough marrying either a Carter or a Pilgrim       Marriages Dec 1893       Carter John St. Saviour 1d 75       Gough Annie Agnes St. Saviour 1d 75       Pilgrim Charles St. Saviour 1d 75       and another Annie Agnes Gough marrying a Blundell or Pledge       Marriages Dec 1895       Blundell Richard George Birmingham 6d 78       Gough Annie Agnes Birmingham 6d 78       Pledge William Daniel Birmingham 6d 78              FreeBMD has the following:              Births Jun 1868 ESSE Alfred Brentford 3a 75              Marriages Mar 1898       CANNON Ethel Brentford 3a 136a       Esse Alfred Brentford 3a 136a              Births Jun 1899 Esse John Alfred Brentford 3a 103       Deaths Jun 1899 Esse John Alfred 0 Brentford 3a 65              Births Sep 1900 ESSE Christine M H Brentford 3a 100              Births Jun 1903 ESSE Madeleine Alice Brentford 3a 133              familysearch.org has       England and Wales Census, 1901       Name Ethel A Esse       Event Type Census       Event Date 31 Mar 1901       Event Place Ealing, Middlesex, England       County Middlesex       Civil Parish Ealing       Ecclesiastical Parish St John'S       Sub-District Brentford       Registration District Brentford       Residence Note Broughton Road       Gender Female       Age 26       Relationship to Head of Household Daughter       Birth Year (Estimated) 1875       Birthplace Ealing, Middlesex       Schedule Type 108       Page Number 15              George Cannon Head M 58 Fulham, London       Louisa Cannon Wife F 54 Pimlico, London       Louisa M Cannon Daughter F 32 Ealing, Middlesex       Ethel A Esse Daughter F 26 Ealing, Middlesex       Christine M H Esse Grand Daughter F 0 Ealing, Middlesex              and       England and Wales Census, 1911       Name: Ethel Augusta Esse       Event Type: Census       Event Date: 1911       Event Place: Ealing, West Ealing, Middlesex, England       County: Middlesex       Parish: Ealing       Sub-District: Brentford       Registration District: Brentford       Gender: Female       Age: 35       Marital Status (Original): MARRIED       Occupation: FLORIST       Birth Year (Estimated): 1876       Birthplace: Ealing       Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter       Line: 4       Page: 1       Household Role Sex Age Birthplace       George Cannon Head Male 68 Fulham, London       Louisa Cannon Wife Female 64 Westminster, London       Louisa Mary Cannon Daughter Female 42 Ealing       Ethel Augusta Esse Daughter Female 35 Ealing       Christine Margaret Hathaway Esse Grandchild Female 10 Ealing              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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