From: ce11son@yahoo.ca   
      
   On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:53:33 +0100, john   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 16/10/2018 19:03, Charles Ellson wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 18:43:39 +0100, john   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 16/10/2018 17:56, lambethwalk57@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>>> My great grandma was registed birth Barnet born in a workhouse rose   
   cramphorn trying to trace her mother's name as don't say mother's maiden name   
   when looked up her birth could her mum be unmarried and a cramphorn someone in   
   family told me she was    
   born in a workhouse   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> You don't give a date, but possibly   
   >>> Name: CRAMPHORN, ROSE Mother's Maiden Surname: MANLEY   
   >>> GRO Reference: 1872  jan-Mar BARNET Volume 03A Page 173   
   >>>   
   >>> If you buy the birth certificate you will get more detail on location,   
   >>> father, etc.   
   >>>   
   >> That one seems to have a matching death index entry in the following   
   >> quarter. Now that the mother's maiden surname is indexed, if the OP   
   >> gives the name and year we probably have enough to identify any   
   >> preceding marriage and the census entries.   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   >This seems possible, mother not married   
   >CRAMPHORN, ROSIE Mother's Maiden Surname: -   
   >GRO Reference: 1881  Oct-Dec BARNET  Volume 03A  Page 193   
   >   
   There's a family tree which has a Rosie CRAMPHORN of the same age   
   married to an Alfred CAREY but the 1901 census has her born in   
   Stepney.   
      
   Better news in Ancestry is an index entry for a Barnet baptism 30 Oct   
   1881 with a mother Alice (i.e. no father); the listed surname is   
   CRANPHORN which looks like an error. There don't seem to be any good   
   following matches which suggests the mother has later died or married.   
   We could still be looking at the wrong date so hopefully the OP will   
   give us some more detail. My main suspects for a match are in   
   Battersea in 1911 with a daughter Rose 7 years older than her parents'   
   marriage. While Barnet is the registration district, the actual   
   relevant locality for Rose and Alice in this case is East Finchley. In   
   1891 that family is at 12 Netley Street, Paddington with Rose's   
   birthplace given as Barnet, Middlesex. The couple's marriage was in   
   Holy Trinity Church, Finchley (Barnet registration district) on 17 Mar   
   1889.   
      
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