From: MB@nospam.net   
      
   On 20/03/2019 19:12, Graeme Wall wrote:   
   > On 20/03/2019 17:51, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:   
   >> In message , Richard Smith   
   >>  writes:   
   >>> On 20/03/19 16:10, Graeme Wall wrote:   
   >>>> On 20/03/2019 15:11, Richard Smith wrote:   
   >>>>> Is anyone able to tell me when old English newspapers come out of   
   >>>>> copyright in the UK?  The normal rule is 70 years from the death of   
   >>>>> the   
   >>>>> author, but the concept of an author seems fairly ill-defined for a   
   >>>>> newspaper.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I think that in the case of a publication with no acknowledged author,   
   >>>> such as a newspaper article, it is 70 years from the date of   
   >>>> publication.   
   >>>   
   >>> Thanks.  That would make sense.   
   >>>   
   >>> Richard   
   >>>   
   >> But beware of pictorial representations, if the scan has been made by   
   >> a commercial archiving company; the _content_ may be out of copyright,   
   >> as may the physical layout, but if the only access you have is to a   
   >> scan made by someone, I think it is likely that they may have some   
   >> claim from the date they scanned it. You can almost certainly   
   >> transcribe from their scan, but not reproduce their scan itself. IANAL   
   >> though.   
   >   
   > Good point.   
   >   
      
   Also the picture may have its own copyright limitations.  A local museum   
   has been given copies of some old photographs of great interest.  They   
   were taken in the late 1890s, they are trying to prove who took the   
   pictures (they are fairly sure they know who he was) because copyright   
   will stay with his estate until 70 years after his death so still quite   
   a number of years to run.  Someone will have taken the picture in the   
   newspaper so presumably the same applies.   
      
   As written if it is a scan of the newspaper, as on the BNA, then the   
   scan will be copyright from when published.   
      
   https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/content/Complaints   
      
   I asked them some time ago about transcriptions, it seems to be OK to   
   use them particularly as I will normally spend quite a bit of time   
   removing many of the OCR errors which means the copy on their website   
   ends up more accurate.   
      
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