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   Message 128,936 of 130,039   
   Charles Ellson to G6JPG-255@255soft.uk   
   Re: Copyright period for English newspap   
   22 Mar 19 00:58:07   
   
   From: ce11son@yahoo.ca   
      
   On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 00:08:21 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"   
    wrote:   
      
   >In message <26889ed7te09b8b0jpptpbjmege78u5156@4ax.com>, Charles Ellson   
   > writes:   
   >>On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 12:25:05 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>In message , Richard Smith   
   >>> writes:   
   >[]   
   >>>>say you cannot transcribe the images.   
   >>>   
   >>>I'm not sure they can do that! The _information_ in the text is not   
   >>>copyright to the scanning entity. (IANAL, so that may be wrong.)   
   >>>   
   >>Some copyright statements can be too simple and have the effect of a   
   >>false claim to copyright on things to which they have no rights. WRT   
   >>transcribing, it should in most cases be fairly easy to distinguish   
   >>e.g. record content (which might or might not be copyright) from   
   >>something originated by a contributor's relative which could easily   
   >>still be in copyright for anything created in the last century and a   
   >>half.   
   >>   
   >   
   >Sorry, I meant I don't think they can prevent you transcribing, even if   
   >from their scan, the _text_ from a document that is itself out of   
   >copyright, as long as you don't (a) use _their_ *image* (b) use _their_   
   >transcription, if their transcription involved in any way provable   
   >effort (e. g. if the original was very hard to read for whatever   
   >reason). But IANAL ...   
   >   
   IMU they can prevent you transcribing but not due to copyright   
   considerations rather than contractual. As with e.g. banning people   
   with brown shoes from entering your premises, there might not be any   
   legal sanction available other than not allowing access.   
      
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