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   Message 128,949 of 130,039   
   Charles Ellson to exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net   
   Re: Copyright period for English newspap   
   23 Mar 19 02:34:02   
   
   From: ce11son@yahoo.ca   
      
   On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 10:01:42 +0100, "Evertjan."   
    wrote:   
      
   >Charles Ellson  wrote on 22 Mar 2019 in   
   >soc.genealogy.britain:   
   >   
   >> IMU they can prevent you transcribing but not due to copyright   
   >> considerations rather than contractual. As with e.g. banning people   
   >> with brown shoes from entering your premises, there might not be any   
   >> legal sanction available other than not allowing access.   
   >   
   >Right.   
   >   
   >So if a scan is published or otherwise legally accessable,   
   >the Berner Convention applies internationally [meaning: in most countries],   
   >so only "creative" changes are copyrightable.   
   >   
   It applies as far as the Convention permits, i.e. the author is   
   entitled to the same rights in another Convention country as applies   
   to that countries citizens. Whether or not any new creation endows   
   rights to the author of that creation depends on that country's laws   
   not on the Convention.   
      
   >Copyright does not have to be stated, it is implicit.   
   >   
   >While copyright has to be claimed to be exercisable, that does not mean that   
   >claim to be exercisable outside the constraints of the law.   
   >   
   >Methinks, in the realm of genealogy, most claims are just false and   
   >misleading.   
   >   
   Quite possible when dealing with mere facts but a novel presentation   
   of those facts is a different matter.   
      
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