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   Message 128,994 of 130,039   
   Tony Proctor to Ian Goddard   
   Re: Parents and Masters   
   13 Apr 19 15:30:23   
   
   From: tony@proctor_NoMore_SPAM.net   
      
   On 13/04/2019 12:00, Ian Goddard wrote:   
   > On 13/04/19 11:31, Tony Proctor wrote:   
   >> On 12/04/2019 17:23, Ian Goddard wrote:   
   >>> On 12/04/19 13:52, Tony Proctor wrote:   
   >>>> I came across this phrase ("Index of Parents and Masters"), and   
   associated prefixes "p. to ..." and "p. of ...", in a document of 18th Century   
   >>>> Freemen of the city of Leicester.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The usage is clearly not that of present-day "parents", and appears to be   
   related to apprenticeships.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Can someone enlighten me of whether this was an accepted usage at that   
   time, whether how it might have differed from "master"?   
   >>>   
   >>> Could "parent" be used when a child was apprenticed to their own father   
   (or to mother if that happened)?   
   >>>   
   >>> Ian   
   >>   
   >> There was no surname correspondence, Ian. That's why I was confused by the   
   usage.   
   >>   
   >> Tony   
   >   
   > What date?  If it's early enough it could be god-parents.  See some of   
   Redmonds' writings, especial "Christian names in genealogy" on that.   
   >   
   > Ian   
      
   The source was "Freemen of the City" [Leicester], vol. 1 1196-1770; and ...   
   vol. 2, 1770-1930.   
      
   There are separate lists in this source, titled "Index of Parents and   
   Masters", and "Index of Freemen and Apprentices", and many abbreviated   
   references "p. to ..." and "p. of ..." in both lists.   
      
   For instance, "William Hammond, s. of Wm. of Nottingham, Inkeeper, p. to Thos.   
   Turney of the same, upholsterer from 1st inst". Or, "William Fellows,   
   s. of Wm. of Enderby, tailor, p. to Benj. Hammond of the same, comber from   
   March last".   
      
   Tony   
      
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