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   J. P. Gilliver (John) to All   
   Mugshots for offenders: how prevalent we   
   12 Sep 19 02:52:59   
   
   From: G6JPG@255soft.uk   
      
   My cousin would like to get hold of the mugshot from the crime committed   
   by her grandfather in Newcastle in 1941.   
      
   I am not sure mugshots were normally taken in England, especially during   
   wartime when everything was in short supply and there was no doubt about   
   the identity of the offender. However, this evening's WDTYTA implied   
   they _were_ being taken in London's docklands, even some decades   
   earlier, so I thought I'd ask.   
      
   From the "N''CL", 1941-July-2:   
      
           Canadian fired rifle in tram   
           A fine of 10s. was imposed at Newcastle to-day, on William   
   Kennedy (36), a Canadian soldier, for being drunk in possession of an   
   Army rifle, and one of 10s. for wantonly firing the rifle in a public   
   place.   
           It was alleged that in New Bridge Street, Kennedy fired a blank   
   cartridge while on a tramcar on which were six passengers.   
           "I was not drunk," he said in court. "It was only a dummy   
   cartridge."   
      
   [He was actually a native of Newcastle; he'd emigrated (Glasgow to   
   Quebec) in 1929, but returned as a member of the Royal Hamilton Light   
   Infantry during the war. He was killed in action in Dieppe in 1942.]   
      
   So: would this offence have generated a mugshot? And, if so, how would   
   my cousin (or I for her) go about looking for it, or any court papers,   
   military court proceedings, or similar?   
   --   
   J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf   
      
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