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   J. P. Gilliver (John) to NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk   
   Re: Florence Fernyhough born 190x - fath   
   17 Nov 19 13:19:47   
   
   From: G6JPG@255soft.uk   
      
   In message , Jenny M Benson   
    writes:   
   >On 16/11/2019 15:28, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:   
   >>  OOPS!!! I wrote that wrong. The 1911 shows (all Fernyhough):   
   >> Emma            Head    55      Widow   
   >> William R       Son     26      Single   
   >> Florence        Daughter 9      -   
   >   
   >I recently struggled in vain to find the birth of a "daughter" -   
   >according to a Census entry, only to find that she was in fact a   
   >granddaughter.  William R was just about old enough to have fathered   
   >Florence, or were there other sons?   
   >   
   G'daughter recorded as daughter not uncommon: sometimes I presume to   
   hide unwed mothers, but more often than might be expected seems to have   
   been either incompetence or laziness on the part of the enumerator. (E.   
   g. cases where parents, with plenty of other children, were living with   
   grandparents, so no concealment necessary.)   
      
   In this case, Emma had children in ~1885 (William Roland, as above),   
   ~1887, ~1889, 1890, ~1893, ~1896, and 1901 (Florence). Her husband died   
   in 1896. Florence's birth is recorded (1901Q3 6b 31, Stone) with MMN   
   Foxley (which is correct for Emma). You could still be right, of course,   
   that Florence was a granddaughter (all Emma's other children except Ada   
   ~1893 were male, assuming Jesse ~1896 is), though I'd have _normally_   
   expected such a child to live with her mother. (Could have been unable   
   to though.) Emma was born 1855 (baptised 1 April), so would have been 46   
   in 1901Q3 (45 at conception), so entirely possible; she was clearly   
   fertile up to her husband's death.   
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