From: keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net   
      
   On 11/18/2019 7:47 AM, Ian Goddard wrote:   
   > On 18/11/19 10:29, Jenny M Benson wrote:   
   >> On 17/11/2019 18:37, knuttle wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>> Please don't interpret what I said, DNA matches has proven several    
   >>> lines in my family for which I could never get good documentation.    
   >>> While the documented evidence still has not improved, I have had many    
   >>> DNA matches in the ancestors siblings family. Two of these matches    
   >>> were t0 3rd great grandparents   
   >>   
   >> Almost identical situation when I married the first time.  Having    
   >> given my name, I was asked for my father's name.  I automaticallygave    
   >> his 3 forenames and that's what appeared on my MC.  His third forename    
   >> being his mother's maiden surname, there was nothing to suggest his    
   >> surname had been omitted.   
   >    
   > My father-in-law gave his brother's name as his father's name on his    
   > marriage certificate.  The family were estranged from their father and    
   > wouldn't even acknowledge him on official documentation.  In fact I    
   > didn't even realise my wife still had a living grandfather when we married.   
   >    
   > What appears on certificates, census returns and any other documentation    
   > we rely on is largely what the clerk think the respondent said or, even    
   > worse, what they think they remember thinking what the respondent said.    
   > The exceptions are the cases where the record was being made by someone    
   > who knew the family.  Even then concealment may have mislead them. Let's    
   > be grateful that most of the time what was recorded seems to have been   
   > what happened.   
   >    
   I have a situation where a 2nd great grandfather states that his parents   
   were born in England in the 1880 census.  Based on his parents family    
   bible, and on other documents the 2nd great grandfather completed, his    
   parents were born in Philadelphia and New York State.  Family lore says    
   his grandfather came from England.   
      
      
   I suspect what happen was caused by a family trait.  That trait is to    
   offer much more information than requested.  I suspect what happened the   
   census taker visited this ancestor farm on a slow day.  When the census    
   taker asked about the ancestor parents' birthplaces, the ancestor    
   launched into a long presentation of his family history that included    
   his parents history and what he knew of his grandparents.   After some    
   time the census taker realized it was getting late, and excused himself.   
   At the next person he interview he realized he had not entered the    
   ancestor parents place of birth place.  From the conversation he    
   remember some one was born in England and added that for the birth place   
   of the ancestor's parent in the 1880 census.   
      
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