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   Steve Hayes to richard@ex-parrot.com   
   Re: Where is Ingleton?   
   24 Apr 20 11:50:22   
   
   From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:39:03 +0100, Richard Smith   
    wrote:   
      
   >> So if someone lived in Lancashire in the 19th century and was born in   
   >> Ingleton, Yorkshire, would they be more likely to have been born in   
   >> the North Eiding one or the West Ruiding one?   
   >   
   >There isn't a Ingleton in the North Riding (though there are three   
   >places called Ingleby in the North Riding).  The Ingleton now in North   
   >Yorkshire was in the West Riding.   
      
   Ah, thank you. That is what I wanted to know!   
      
   >   The Ingleton in County Durham has   
   >always been there, though it is only three miles from the border with   
   >North Yorkshire and before that the North Riding.  Lancashire is much   
   >closer to the Ingleton in Yorkshire, which is also the larger and better   
   >known village.  (In fact, I'd struggle to describe the one in Durham a   
   >village at all: it's more a hamlet.)  Of course, that doesn't   
   >necessarily mean this person came from the Yorkshire one, but it does   
   >tip the balance somewhat in that direction.   
      
   I have other problems with the person, and knowing which person it is,   
   but the Census information definitely says Ingleton in Yorkshire.   
      
   For what it's worth the person I was looking for was a John Miller who   
   married Margaret Hardman in Scotforth, Lancashire in Dec 1879.   
      
   In the 1881 Census he is shown, still in Scotforth, with his wife   
   Margaret and infant son William. So he is the one I am looking for. He   
   is aged 23, which means he was born about 1858/59. And his birthplace   
   is given as Ingleton, Yorkshire, England.   
      
   Searching FreeBMD for a John Miller born in Yorkshire gives two   
   districts with an Ingleton in it -- Teesdale and Settle.   
      
   Hence my question about which Ingleton and where was it likely to be,   
   since a John Miller was born in each of them at the relevant time.   
      
   Anyway, thanks for your answer, which has been most helpful to me in   
   pursuing this particular enquiry.   
      
   >most of the   
   >Dales (which is the area which includes Ingleton) were transferred from   
   >the West Riding to North Yorkshire; and the areas on the west of the   
   >Pennine mountains were transferred to Lancashire and the new counties of   
   >Greater Manchester and Cumbria.  In becoming North Yorkshire, the North   
   >Riding lost Teesside to the new county of Cleveland, and Teesdale to   
   >Durham, and gained the City of York which had not properly been in any   
   >of the Ridings   
      
   And that too is useful, thanks again.   
      
      
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