From: hayesstw@telkomsa.net   
      
   On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 20:30:58 +0200, john   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 25/04/2020 08:32, Steve Hayes wrote:   
   >> Yes, I initially thought that John Miller, son of James and Lydia,   
   >> was the one I was looking for. But I wanted to look at the other one   
   >> too, but couldn't find anything, except in the 1871 census, where he   
   >> is shown as aged 12, living with his grandparents, His grandmother   
   >> was Martha Durham, and that makes him seem more likely, because on   
   >> his marriage register entry he gives his father as William Durham   
   >> Miller, and that makes the James and Lydia one seem less likely.   
   >>   
   >> But I have not been able to find that John Miller in the 1861   
   >> census, or any record of him with his parents to show who they were.   
      
   >This is a bit messy, incomplete and some oddities needing to be resolved   
   >   
   >William Durham Miller   
   >England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975   
   >Name: William Durham Miller   
   >Event Type: Christening   
   >Event Date: 17 Jul 1836   
   >Event Place: Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom   
   >Event Place (Original): Bolton Le Sands, Lancashire, England   
   >Gender: Male   
   >Father's Name: John Miller   
   >Mother's Name: Martha Elizabeth   
   >Record Number: 781341   
      
   Thank you very much! That seems to be the one I am looking for.   
      
   and also in 1871, John with William's parents, his grandparents   
      
   >Name: John Miller   
   >Age: 11   
   >Estimated birth year: 1860   
   >Relation: Grandson   
   >Gender: Male   
   >Where born: Ingleton Yorkshire England   
   >Civil Parish: Nether Kellet   
   >Ecclesiastical parish: Bolton le Sands   
   >Town: Nether Kellet   
   >County/Island: Lancashire   
   >Country: England   
   >Registration district: Lunesdale   
   >Sub-registration district: Arkholme   
   >Piece: 4237   
   >Folio: 24   
   >Page Number: 3   
   >Household Members:   
   >Name Age   
   >John Miller 59   
   >Martha E Miller 57   
   >John Miller 11   
      
   And that was the only record I could find, which made me doubt that he   
   was the son of John & Lydia, but I was unable to find anything else on   
   him or his parents, so I'm very grateful to you for digging up those   
   other records, which seem to fill in lots of missing bits of the   
   puzzle.   
      
   >These might also be relevant   
   >Name: Mother's Maiden Surname   
   >   
   >MILLER, MARY  WILKINSON  WILKINSON   
   >GRO Reference: 1871  S Quarter in LUNESDALE  Volume 08E  Page 703   
   >   
   >MILLER, THOMAS   WILKINSON   
   >GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in LUNESDALE Volume 08E Page 712   
   >   
   >MILLER, HENRY   WILKINSON   
   >GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in LUNESDALE Volume 08E Page 719   
   >   
   >MILLER, WILLIAM DURHAM  WILKINSON   
   >GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in LUNESDALE Volume 08E Page 773   
   >and   
   >Deaths Mar 1877  Miller William Durham 0  Lunesdale 8e 509 Burial Date:   
   >21 Jan 1877 Burial Place: Bolton Le Sands, Lancaster, England   
   >   
   >and another marriage but no obvious death of Elizabeth   
   >Name: William Durham Miller   
   >Gender: Male   
   >Age: 41   
   >Birth Year: abt 1835   
   >Event Type: Marriage   
   >Event Date: 3 Jan 1876   
   >Parish: Bolton le Sands, Over Kellet, Lancashire, England   
   >Father: John Miller   
   >Spouse: Christiana Braithwaite   
   >Spouse Age: 44   
   >Spouse Father: Thomas Holliday   
   >   
   >So that is some information on the other John Miller born in Ingleton   
   >nr. Settle   
      
   And I now think I would be correct in saying that at the relative   
   times Ingleton near Settle was then in the West Riding of Yorkshire,   
   even if it is in North Yourkshire today?   
      
      
      
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