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   Kate to All   
   Re: 18th century brick wall   
   19 May 20 14:46:40   
   
   From: ktms@live.com   
      
   "Ruth Wilson"  wrote in message news:o2ewG.274571$fD4.33934@fx09.am4...   
      
      
   Follow up to my query on William & Martha Fraser, early C19, Scotland to   
   Liverpool - details in earlier post.   
      
   Thank you to John and Gordon for your replies - Gordon, do you have   
   knowledge that these were military posting places?   
      
   What this has done is make me go back and look at my information - I was   
   going to post more details as per John's suggestion, but then I started   
   to question some of my assumptions and I think I have moved forward a   
   bit. I have changed my "probably not" to "probably yes".   
      
   I have the burial and death cert of a William Fraser, d. 1848 Liverpool,   
   aged 71. However, the informant, and wife in 1841, is called Betty, so I   
   had put this to one side. Last week, I decided I needed to research this   
   couple further, and found they had married late in life, when both were   
   widowed, in 1838. So, if the burial of Martha below is correct, it could   
   well be William (I rather hope so, as it names his father as Donald!).   
      
   I have a burial of Martha Fraser, buried Liverpool, 1831, aged 55, but I   
   had thought this less likely as a year later an infant Martha, daughter   
   of Charles & Martha Fraser was buried giving the same address, and I   
   know of no Charles in the family. However, I can find no trace of this   
   couple anywhere and I now wonder if the baby was the illegitimate child   
   of Martha junior (there was a daughter of the right name and age). The   
   father may well or not have been called Charles, but not Fraser.   
      
   There are a few assumptions, but given that these are pretty much the   
   only entries that fit, and they DO fit, I am using that as a working   
   hypothesis for now.   
      
   Next step, when the libraries reopen, check the directories for an   
   address for William c. 1831-32 (I've just checked my ancient notes - I   
   only checked for James, his son, at these dates!)   
      
   Moral - revisit your research every now and then.   
   a) your ideas might change;   
   b) you will have other information (how often have I gone back and   
   realised that the neighbours were relatives);   
   c) new information is indexed and/or published ( I recently broke a 30+   
   year brick wall when FMP digitised an obscure local newspaper with a   
   report of an ancestor's death and named his father - I'd scoured all the   
   more obvious newspapers years ago, on microfilm and online indexes).   
      
   Any helpful thoughts or comments welcome, but I thought I'd share.   
      
   Ruth   
      
   While scrolling through military records on TNA  I found an unrelated person   
   who was born at Paisley, Renfrewshire and had served in the 95th Foot   
   Regiment, Fraser Fencibles.   
   I Googled for information and found "Highland Fencible Corps". If you follow   
   that through you will get a brief  history of the Regiment which was   
   disbanded in 1802.   
   Because of the name it seems rational to suppose this could be the Regiment   
   William joined.   
      
   The question remains did William continue in military service joining   
   another Regiment or take up a civilian occupation?   
      
   According to what I have read about Liverpool the only time troops were   
   garrisoned there was in the 16th and 17th centuries. Liverpool developed   
   into a huge trading port and attracted many outsiders. Perhaps William went   
   there to find more opportunities.   
      
   The marriage certificate of any of his children should give his occupation.   
      
   To anyone else reading this, if you have lost an ancestor down under please   
   let me know as I am desperate for something to research.   
      
   Regards   
      
   Kate   
   Sydney, Australia   
      
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