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   Message 129,445 of 130,039   
   Jenny M Benson to All   
   Re: "Alieni" in parish record   
   23 Oct 20 12:33:31   
   
   From: NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk   
      
   On 23/10/2020 12:03, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:   
   > Looking at baptisms in Bebington (Wirral, Cheshire, England), 1679.   
   >   
   > Most - all, I think - of the other entries on the page are of the form:   
   >   
   >  filius/filia   de   
   >  ____    
   >   
   > (forenames Latinised), which I of course understand to mean   
   >   
   >  son/daughter of   of  ____ .   
   >   
   > However, the one I think are my ancestors says (under Mensis Augusti   
   > [month of August]):   
   >   
   > Johannes filius Johannis Mason Alieni <>____________________________3ยบ.   
   >   
   > Which I take to mean John son of John Mason (the <> is a little diamond,   
   > which I take to be a foible of the scribe - it's done without taking the   
   > pen off the page to draw the line to the date figure [handy, as it makes   
   > it a lot easier to see which date lines up with which line]).   
   >   
   > I am pretty sure "Alieni" just means "of elsewhere" - but why? Most of   
   > the others on the page are "de Bebington" or "de Beb: super" (Higher or   
   > Upper, I presume), but there are some from other villages - Watsheath or   
   > Wats Heath, Stourton, Poulton, Brombrough, Hony-Greave, Hinderton,   
   > Tranmore, and Holt Hill. Sure, one might guess the clerk didn't know,   
   > but hang on: if you're having a baby son baptised (especially one named   
   > after you, so quite likely the first one), it's not like just having   
   > your passport stamped - it takes a while; surely someone would have   
   > asked? (Would they even _do_ a baptism for a stranger?)   
      
   Can't imagine a Priest refusing to baptise a child.   
      
   One of my ancestors was described in a Baptismal record, as "a poor   
   travelling man" so maybe John Mason was of no fixed abode and didn't   
   know himself where he was actually "from."   
      
   --   
   Jenny M Benson   
   Wrexham, UK   
      
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