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|    john to Ruth Wilson    |
|    Re: Occupation query    |
|    18 Feb 21 20:59:03    |
      From: john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr              On 18/02/2021 19:41, Ruth Wilson wrote:       > Snipped       >>       >>> ensure that all returns were completed to the same standard, too.       >>       >> I'd have thought they'd have preferred ink, though.       >>>       >>> * I don't know what a pencil cost in 1841 but I bet it was much more       >>> than they cost today.       >>       >> Agreed.       >>       >> (Just had further thought: elsewhere in this thread someone's said       >> it's graphite, and therefore more inert than ink. But in 1841, how       >> many would have been [real] lead instead? [Not that that's any more       >> ert.] And which sort would the government-supplied one be? Discuss!)       >       > There used to be such a thing as 'puce pencil' that was pretty indelible       > and used for official documents. I remember us having them in our tin of       > odds and ends and drawing on the back of my hand. My mum told me it was       > poisonous so I cried myself to sleep expecting to die!!!       > I recently Googled it, and the Victorian ones were poisonous, but the       > later ones used something different. I think clerks used to suck the end       > to dampen them and get them to work more efficiently, which was the       > problem.       > I don't know about indelible pencil, but it's certainly an indelible       > memory (and be careful what you say to sensitive children)       >       > Ruth              See the Wikipedia entry on pencils https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil       They never contained lead. They have a graphite/clay core. The problem       with poisoning from ordinary pencils in the past was the lead in the       exterior paint.              For indelible pencils see this Wikipedia entry       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copying_pencil       They contained a graphite/clay core usually containing a water-soluble       aniline dye. That dye was poisonous so licking the pencil to give a       stronger mark was dangerous. They are still used in some countries for       ballot papers, etc.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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