From: charlesellson@btinternet.com   
      
   On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 16:38:51 +0000, Peter Johnson   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 14:27:23 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver"   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >   
   >>>Having said that, if the name was indeed inserted at a later time then   
   >>>it is possible someone had forgotten the correct name.   
   >>   
   >>Ah, so it _is_ used as a placeholder here as well as US?   
   >   
   >Is it? I was about to query that. When did John Doe for an unknown   
   >person become commonplace in the US?   
   >In the UK we don't seem to have the need for a John Doe or equivalent.   
   >   
   It has possibly fallen out of favour in English Law because it is a   
   real name (192.com indicates there are 161 records for the UK) which   
   "persons unknown" certainly is not. For other uses it is not   
   inherently a unique identifier for e.g. the unknown male in your   
   mortuary.   
      
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