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   On 2025-07-26 13:55:59 +0000, J. P. Gilliver said:   
      
   > On 2025/7/25 18:0:27, Peter Johnson wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2025 16:11:38 -0000 (UTC), "Geoff"   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> J. P. Gilliver wrote:   
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   >>>> So it's probably OK for 2031. Whether we'll get subsequent ones,   
   >>>> we'll just have to hope.   
   >>>   
   >>> It will all become useless for future genealogical research anyway,   
   >>> with the way modern life is lived!!   
   >   
   > If you mean the lack of marriages (not to mention same-sex   
   > partnerships*), then it is certainly more challenging! However, still   
   > possible. And the census is _more_ important, as it at least shows who   
   > were living together (albeit only at 10-year intervals).   
   >   
   > *no disapproval of same-sex partnerships intended! Only that they make   
   > biological heredity harder to divine.>   
   >> Post circa1950 research is rendered almost impossible by the use of   
   >> middle name initials by the GRO.   
   > Well, a middle initial is still better than nothing; I take it you mean   
   > they switched to recording middle names as initials only rather than in   
   > full. But I'd say "rendered almost impossible" isn't really the case,   
   > except where a _very_ common name is involved.   
      
   This isn't exactly the problem implied by your post, but it's another   
   difficulty that can arise with initials.   
      
   My wife has a LOT of names, and her full name is M. de la L. I. P. A.   
   C. C. If you don't count de and la as names this means five given names   
   and two family names. In her passport issued in 1996 they listed all of   
   them, but when she renewed it in 2006 they replaced the last given name   
   by A. They did this without a word of explanation but we saw no reason   
   to protest. We were wrong, because in 2016 they wanted to know why the   
   A. was spelled out on the application. They were completely unable to   
   understand that they were the ones who had changed it in 2006 and that   
   it had been spelled out in all the passport applications she had ever   
   made, and with a bit of effort they could check their records. They   
   wanted her to prove that she hadn't changed her name in the preceding   
   year (despite the total lack of evidence that she had).   
      
   All this had to be done over the phone with idiots in Durham, because   
   although there used to be a UK passport office in Paris where one could   
   go to talk with a human being, by 2016 this had closed.   
      
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