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|    J. P. Gilliver to Tahiri    |
|    Re: year quarters - and going from Broth    |
|    09 Feb 26 23:45:43    |
      XPost: alt.genealogy       From: G6JPG@255soft.uk              On 2026/2/8 22:42:45, Tahiri wrote:       > On 06/02/2026 21:59, J. P. Gilliver wrote:       >> I wish genealogy software and databases would actually acknowledge year       >> quarters       > snip       >>       >> 2. Once an event recorded in that way has been       >> cited/quoted/copied/whatever once or twice, the fact that it was       >> originally known to be a quarter will get lost, and it will be assumed       >> that it is accurate to the month.       >>       >> FWIW I record such events, if in plain text, as e. g. 1960Q2; in the       >> software I use (Brother's Keeper), which doesn't "know about" quarters,       >> I enter just the year, with Q2 in the comment field for that event.       >       > This used to be a common problem since most software is made in the US,       > but I believe they are more adaptable nowadays. I remember Ancestry       > changing from using the last month for a quarter, to using the first       > month, which is less likely to have people appearing to be baptised              It's still only one of three possibles, though (so only a 1 in 3 chance       of being correct). I've seen all three used - FreeBMD and the GRO       themselves use the third (last) month, as do _I think_ Ancestry and       FindMyPast; I think familysearch (the LDS) use the _middle_ one; and       I've seen at least one place which uses the first one (might have been       MyHeritage, I can't remember).              > before they were born. I was always told to put eg 1 Jan 1900 - 31 Mar              That's best, it's just tedious ...              > 1900, which still isn't always accurate since it might be a December       > event that was registered in January. In any case Brother's Keeper has a              ... and there's always that. (Q1 ones are the worst because they can be       the wrong _year_, but even Q2/3/4 ones can be _registered_ in the       quarter after they happened.)              > maximum of 20 spaces in the date field so the format of my example       > becomes a problem.              I was going to say that, if you double-click the date field in BK, it       lets you enter two dates, and indicate whether they're starting date and       ending date (as could be the case for anything that lasted a long time,       such as living somewhere, or an occupation), or that the event happened       between them (such as a BMD, qualification, etcetera). But you say that ...              > I now use Family Historian sold by Calico Pie which is British software              ... so you're no longer interested in BK.              I'm very interested, as - seeing the writing on the wall for BK - Family       Historian looks the best (for me) one to switch to; I'm interested to hear:              what you found in moving from BK to FH - what went wrong (especially       things you only discovered long after the change), what to look out for       (including how to prevent the things that went wrong), and similar       questions; (date formats especially)              how you think the _support_ compares. In BK, there's a user group       (mailing list), with lots of helpful people, and occasionally JS       himself; he also provides minor upgrades free. As far as I can see, FH       has just a support group (a forum) - no pariticipation from the authors,       and no upgrades other than major paid. (But it is more in line with       modern Windows conventions.)              > and accepts quarter years as Q1 1900. All mine were as 1Q1900 which it       > put in inverted commas and called a 'date phrase'! I have gradually              Mine are mostly just year, with Q1 etc. among the comments for that       event. (If I do have any in the date field, they'll be e. g. 1960Q2,       which BK will just store as text.)              I _may_ be able to get ChatGPT (or similar) to create something to       extract those, though I suspect not as "Q2" etc. is often not the _only_       thing I have in the comments (for example, I might have further address       details for e. g. BMDs - I tend only to record the town/village in the       location box, with house number and street name, or church, in the       comment box - so my list of "locations with events" remains usable).              > swapped them around so that it is now happy and the age calculations       > work. I am still running Brother's Keeper as well because I am       > continuing using it's reference numbers. Family Historian has many more       > features but you don't have to use them.              Hmm. (Have you ever gone from FH _to_ BK? If so, what problems?)              --       J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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