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   From: elonx@protonmail.com   
      
   Jonathan Harold Esmond Vere Harmsworth   
   abuse@newsdemon.com   
      
   The Nazis co-opted the word "socialism" and meant something entirely   
   different   
   by it than did the actual socialists of the era. The Nazis absolutely did   
   *not*   
   mean economic collectivism, i.e. state ownership of the means of   
   production and   
   distribution, the hallmark of socialism. In fact, the Nazis *privatized*   
   industries that had been taken over by the state under the Weimar   
   republic.   
      
   What Hitler and the Nazis meant by their use of "socialism" was a sort of   
   cultural and Aryan identity collectivism. The Nazis were mortally opposed   
   to   
   Marxism, Leninism, "Fourierism," "Fabian" socialism, "democratic"   
   socialism, or   
   *any* of the traditional left-wing socialist philosophies. The Nazis were   
   not   
   left-wing by any stretch of the imagination. The claim that they were is a   
   lie   
   told by far right-wingnuts to try, unsuccessfully, to pretend there is   
   some   
   ideological distance between them and outright Nazis.   
      
   Nazis: extreme nationalism   
   Socialists: internationalist; national identity is bad   
      
   Nazis: indifferent to existence of private enterprise   
   Socialists: collectivist first and foremost regarding enterprise   
      
   Nazis: virulently racist   
   Socialists: anti-racist   
      
   Nazis: extreme reverence for the past and "traditional values"   
   Socialists: "progressive" - hostility to past and tradition   
      
   Nazis: romantic and folkloric; anti-intellectual   
   Socialists: "scientific" and pro-intellectual   
      
   Nazis: glorification of military and war as greatest expression of   
   national identity; effective military control of state   
   Socialists: military subordinate to civilian-controlled state   
      
   Nazis: aggressively expansionist through war   
   Socialists: passively expansionist through collapse of capitalist   
   economies due to capitalism's so-called "inherent contradiction"   
      
   Fascism and Nazism are right-wing, not left-wing. The revisionist effort   
   by   
   right-wingnuts to paint a contrary picture is a failure.   
      
   There is a reason that Nazis were major participants at the "unite the   
   right"   
   murder rally in Charlottesville in 2017. It's because they are and always   
   have   
   been extremist right-wing.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)