XPost: uk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.society.liberalism   
   XPost: talk.politics.misc   
   From: abelard@abelard.org   
      
   On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 15:51:48 -0500, "63h.1507" <63h.1506@f3t4w.net>   
   wrote:   
      
   >On 3/5/24 7:41 AM, Incubus wrote:   
   >> On 2024-03-04, 63h.1504 <63h.1503@f3t3w.net> wrote:   
   >>> On 3/3/24 9:44 AM, abelard wrote:   
   >>>> On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 08:17:29 -0000 (UTC), useapen   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> The last Baby Boomer turns 60 this year. Many born between 1946 and 1964   
   >>>>> have already retired, and millions more will follow in the coming years,   
   >>>>> with the number of people reaching state pension age forecast to hit a   
   >>>>> record 800,000 in 2028 for the first time. By then the earliest anyone   
   >>>>> will be able to claim their state pension will be 67, up from 66 today.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> we can easily meet any particular pension   
   >>>>   
   >>>> a lot is about choice   
   >>>> we could all choose to walk or cycle   
   >>>>   
   >>>> read this from the '30s   
   >>>> "Economic Possibilities For Our Grandchildren." keynes   
   >>>> (many coppies on the net)   
   >>>   
   >>>     The UK is suffering from the same demographic crisis as   
   >>>     much of the 1st world - drastic reduction in birthrates   
   >>>     create a fatal gap ... no youth, no money, to support the   
   >>>     older gens. The success of the 1st world after WW2 led   
   >>>     people to believe they didn't need nine kids to protect   
   >>>     them in their old age.   
   >>>   
   >>>     And it was true ... for awhile.   
   >>>   
   >>>     The very worst off is S.Korea - birthrate of 0.71 at last   
   >>>     tally. Bare "replacement" is 2.1 per.   
   >>>   
   >>>     Countries are importing 3rd-world people in droves - no   
   >>>     matter how they frame it for political reasons - to try   
   >>>     and cope. It may serve for one more gen, but much beyond   
   >>>     that the original "nations/cultures" are DEAD, completely   
   >>>     replaced by "the help".   
   >>   
   >> In addition to such racial and cultural vandalism, it doesn't seem to   
   >> occur to them that the people they import to boost the population will   
   >> also one day grow old and receive state benefits and need to be paid   
   >> for.   
   >>   
   >> It's a state-sponsored pyramid scheme, as is fiat currency.   
   >   
   >   
   >   Correct, it's a pyramid scheme - sponsored by desperate   
   >   'leaders' to stretch things out a LITTLE longer (until   
   >   their golden parachutes are polished and packed).   
   >   
   >   The imported "help" will now soon become so dominant that   
   >   whatever the 'character' of the UK or France or many others,   
   >   that will cease to be. Those countries will take on the   
   >   character of the ones the "help" FLED from.   
   >   
   >   No babies = No Country. Thousands of years down the drain.   
   >   Population-replacements are nothing new, but this is a   
   >   world connected on so many levels that it may all fall   
   >   down. The higher you are ...   
   >   
   >   I've checked-around for a long time and found NO kind of   
   >   economy that works in a demographic inversion. ALL require   
   >   more young than old - 'do-ers', earners, taxpayers. Even   
   >   more/better robots won't solve this, just delay the   
   >   collapse for a little longer.   
   >   
   >   No, the species will not die out entirely - places   
   >   where women are still "handmaids", seen as Baby   
   >   Machines, will persist. Maybe not a NICE sort of   
   >   existence though - filthy huts and plagues. Not   
   >   much of a way 'up' either since we've used up all   
   >   the ready natural resources ...   
      
   it's all vanished in a puff   
      
   you don't understand evolution either   
      
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