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   From: markprobert17@lumbercartel.com   
      
   "Barbara Schwarz"  wrote in message   
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   > "Markasurus Probertasaurus"  wrote in   
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   > > "Barbara Schwarz"  wrote in message   
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   > > > "Magi D. Shepley"  wrote   
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   > >  message   
   news:<3F8F5180.7030701@catsincyberspace.concentriccircles.net>...   
   > > > > Nick,   
   > > > > The public library is open and available to all people.  You don't   
   need   
   > > > > any money, there is no age limit (beyond the 5 years or having the   
   > > > > ability to write your name that most libraries impose prior to   
   checking   
   > > > > out books).  I guarentee that I can go to the library that is 2   
   blocks   
   > > > > from my apartment and find things promoting criminal behavior in the   
   > > > > children's section and the young adult's section.   
   > > >   
   > > > Which means that your librarians should be investigated, Magi, because   
   > > > such books should not be in the children's section.   
   > >   
   > > Don'tcha just love censorship? Until it applies to you.   
   > >   
   > > Children should   
   > > > read books to build character not to become terrorists and criminals.   
   > >   
   > > Some would call it self defense.   
   > >   
   > > > > I can *probably* even find the instructions on how to make a bomb in   
   the   
   > > > > children's non-fiction section...  I won't guarantee that, however,   
   > > > > because it may not be labeled in that fashion.   
   > > > > Freedom of Speech means that I have the right to disagree with you,   
   and   
   > > > > I can fight to have your speech stopped: but I have no right to   
   actually   
   > > > > STOP it.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Magi   
   > > >   
   > > > Freedom of Speech has it's limitations, Magi.   
   > >   
   > > *Prior restraint* is very seldom allowed by SCOTUS.   
   > >   
   > > Check your law library   
   > > > hereto. Teaching others on to blow people up is such a limitation.   
   > >   
   > > Oh? Care to cite proof of that assertion? Or, are you just wishfully   
   > > thinking?   
      
   Hey, babs, I asked you a question. You failed to answer it. So, you are   
   blowing hot flatulence?   
      
   > > I   
   > > > hope you are no fan of Pat Robertson, the Christian Coalition founder.   
   > > > This alleged religious man said a few days ago, during a recent Club   
   > > > 700 episode, that it would not be a bad idea to plant a nuclear device   
   > > > underneath the U.S. State Department.   
   > >   
   > > That is his right to say. Just like it is my right to say that he,   
   again,   
   > > proves he is a loon. The appropriate response to unaccepatable speech is   
   not   
   > > stifily it, but uttering more speech.   
   > >   
   > > > That man is crazy, he is openly   
   > > > advocating terrorism, and he is abusing the First Amendment, free   
   > > > speech for his evil intentions and hatred.   
   > >   
   > > He is exercising his right of free speech, and, when he did it, he   
   enhanced   
   > > your right of free speech. IOW, you benefited from what he said.   
   > >   
   > > If he has problems with the   
   > > > State Department, why is he not filing a penal complaint against them   
   > > > or why is he not suing them?   
   > >   
   > > Because he chose his manner of expressing his complaint. One of the   
   elements   
   > > of free speech is that the person uttering the unacceptable speech has   
   the   
   > > right to choose the manner.   
   > >   
   > > BTW, I also defend the right of the KKK, neo-Nazis, and other such   
   people to   
   > > peaceably assemble, and say what they wish.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > You should defend the right of people that might fall to violence by   
   > bomb promotors, terrorists, other criminals, the KKK, the neo-Nazis   
   > and religious persecutors.   
      
   Babsy, I even defend the right of the Kriminal Kult of $cientology to utter   
   their hogwash. I do NOT defend their actions, nor do I defend the actions of   
   the terrorists, criminals, the KKK, neo-Nazis, or religious persecutors.   
      
   *Note*: I exclude anyone who is attempting to stifle the racketeering   
   influence corrupt organization known as the Kriminal Kult of $cientology, as   
   that is not a religion in any sense of the word.   
      
   > Those that you just mentioned threw the first stone, the others are   
   > the innocent people.   
      
   That is the price of freedom. Live with it, just like everyone else.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)