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From: markprobert17@lumbercartel.com
"Barbara Schwarz" wrote in message
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> > "Barbara Schwarz" wrote in message
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> > > > BarbaralovesMarty@excite.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message
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> > > > > "Jeff" wrote in message
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> > > > > > "Barbara Schwarz" wrote in message
> > > > > > news:8385d874.0310150715.3e76854e@posting.google.com...
> > > > > > > WARNING
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (Garbage deleted)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ever hear of the freedom of speech?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Everything on that site is publically available.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have a good day.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff, there are limitations to freedom of speech. Sexual
harassment is
> > > > > no freedom of speech, and telling people how to make bombs is no
> > > > > freedom of speech either, because people may have to die as a
result
> > > > > of that information.
> > > > >
> > > > > This earth is not a sane place. Even if you put a little note
> > > > > underneath your bomb instructions and information about how to
throw
> > > > > bombs in police cars, that people should not do that, Dave
Touretzky,
> > > > > you, and anybody else knows that there are numerous people who
just
> > > > > want to blow up others and they screw the law and warnings.
Touretzky
> > > > > claims no responsibilty for what other crazy people construct and
> > > > > build after the instructions on his website, but he tells them how
to
> > > > > do that. What a dangerous snake!
> > > > >
> > > > > Only because there are also other criminals out there who tell
> > > > > terrorists on the web how to blow up things and people, doesn't
mean
> > > > > for Touretzky, a university educator (!) to act same reckless.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also remind you that the young man who had the same bomb
> > > > > instructions on his website was arrested by the FBI. His website
was
> > > > > removed. What do you think makes Touretzky innocent by putting
that
> > > > > dangerous stuff back on his site?
> > > > >
> > > > > There are millions of example in which Touretzky could make his
point
> > > > > on freedom of speech. Endangering other peoples'lives and
degrading
> > > > > others through sexual perversions, persecuting religion, are the
worst
> > > > > examples!
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, Jeff, if you, or anybody you love will be disabled or
killed
> > > > > through a bomb that was build after Touretzky's or another
madman's
> > > > > instructions, you will be a changed man. You will regret your
words
> > > > > that freedom of speech should allow detailed information on how to
> > > > > build and throw bombs. The world is too crazy for that
information,
> > > > > how come you have not noticed that?
> > > > >
> > > > > The right to live unharmed is a constituional right that is
superior
> > > > > to freedom of speech. If freedom of speech harms or endangers the
> > > > > constitutional right of people to live a peaceful and happy life,
you
> > > > > can't say it. It would be unconstitutional. Touretzky's bomb
> > > > > instructions are unconstitutional because he endangers other
> > > > > constitutional rights. His persecution of religion also violates
the
> > > > > First Amendment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Barbara Schwarz
> > > >
> > > > Barbara, I agree with your concern. I think that freedom of speech
can
> > > > go a little too far. If "Freedom of Speach" allows people to promote
> > > > criminal behavior, easily accessed to ALL ages, then there is
> > > > something terribly wrong with our society. And people actually
> > > > allowing it, and standing up for it is sickening to me. We have been
> > > > fighting to keep terrorists out of our country, while our own
citizens
> > > > are standing up for people who have no respect for human life, and
> > > > glorify the terror.
> > > >
> > > > It is sad how people can be so dillusional.
> > > >
> > > > -Gerome
> > >
> > > I am glad that you are responsbile, Gerome. My point exactly. The
> > > world is a very dangerous place and while most people will not resort
> > > to brutal violence, there are still enough people that do.
> > >
> > > Actually, I think freedom of speech is very important, but building
> > > bombs is not. It is really rotten to abuse the First Amendment to
> > > promote terrorism and crimes.
> > >
> > > Our police reported that 500 bombs exploded in Salt Lake Valley during
> > > the last summer. They said the bombs were constructed by teenagers who
> > > downloaded bomb instructions from the Internet. As far as I know, only
> > > animals were killed and property was blown up, but just imagine what
> > > may happen if a person accidentially walks in the way of a bomb.
> > >
> > > And then there are terrorists that don't want to blow up only animals
> > > (which is pretty gruesome too) and property, but aim their violence
> > > towards innocent people.
> > >
> > > The earth doesn't need more websites to build bombs. It needs more
> > > websites to build a better and saver world. And esp. an educator, as
> > > David Touretzky, should know about it. He is giving "free speech" a
> > > bad rap.
> >
> > Ther Kriminal Kult of $cientology gives pseudo-religions a bad rap.
>
>
> You are a heckler, Mister, and you don't add much to the discussion.
> The thread was about Touretzky and his outrageous activities.
To paraphrase Harry S. Truman, "If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the
thread."
And, please do not call me "Mister".
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