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   From: markprobert17@lumbercartel.com   
      
   "Barbara Schwarz"  wrote in message   
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   > > "Barbara Schwarz"  wrote in message   
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   > > > > On 20 Oct 2003 08:23:04 -0700, BarbaralovesMarty@excite.com (Barbara   
   > > > > Schwarz) wrote:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > >Gee, give me a break! In hate school do you teach, Magi? Why should   
   > > > > >hate be allowed?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Because you cannot have freedom if you don't allow speech you   
   dislike.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > First they came for the Jews   
   > > > > and I did not speak out   
   > > > > because I was not a Jew.   
   > > > > Then they came for the Communists   
   > > > > and I did not speak out   
   > > > > because I was not a Communist.   
   > > > > Then they came for the trade unionists   
   > > > > and I did not speak out   
   > > > > because I was not a trade unionist.   
   > > > > Then they came for me   
   > > > > and there was no one left   
   > > > > to speak out for me.   
   > > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Pastor Martin Niemöller   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > > How can you use that speech for promoting that it is fine to persecute   
   > > > a religion? You got it so wrong. Touretzky is attacking Scientology   
   > > > because it is a religion.   
   > >   
   > > Since $cientology is not a religion, your comment is inapplicable.   
   >   
   > This is what the Nazis said about the religion of the Jews.   
      
   You are woefully misinformed. The Nazis prejudice was not religiousk, but   
   racial. They did not consider Jews to be part of the human race. They   
   considered Jews to be inherently inferior.   
      
   I consider most $cientologists to be dupes and pawns. I consider the leaders   
   to be criminal.   
      
   And, since you brought it up with your mention of "Nazi" I onvoke Godwin.   
      
   > > > Some German Scientologists   
   > >   
   > > That is not a reliable source, since they are $cientologists and trained   
   to   
   > > lie.   
   >   
   > I never studied anything in SCN that told me to lie. All the opposite.   
   > Check out the definition of "truth" in the SCN technical dictionary.   
      
   Your education is woefully inadequate.   
      
   > > digged out of the Bavarian State library   
   > > > remarks that the Nazis made about the Jews in the 30s and early 40s.   
   > > > They were identically with remarks that the persecutors of Scientology   
   > > > make today. It is as if they just had exchanged the world "Jews" with   
   > > > "Scientology" and reissued the whole propaganda.   
   > >   
   > > I should point out that you lose, as you have violated Godwin.   
   >   
   > I speak German. I have read those statements myself. Learn German,   
   > travel to Bavaria, read the original Nazi statements against the Jews   
   > and compare them to what they say about Scientologists. Most of the   
   > statements are shockingly identical.   
   >   
   > You made no research hereto at all. You just a heckler who covers up   
   > what is behind the attacks on SCN.   
      
   Babs, you do not have a clue. You should learn about Godwin's Law.   
      
   And, when i asked you for facts and references, you posted dead links, or   
   links to articles that were irrelevant. Thus, it is YOU who is the heckler.   
      
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