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   From: markprobert209@lumbercartel.com   
      
   "Barbara Schwarz"  wrote in message   
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   > "Markasurusi usProbertasaurusius"  wrote   
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   > > "Barbara Schwarz"  wrote in message   
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   > > > "Markasurusi usProbertasaurusius"    
   wrote   
   > >  in message news:...   
   > > > > "Barbara Schwarz"  wrote in message   
   > > > > news:4c418fa.0310300842.64ecf7c5@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > "Markasurusi Probertasaurusi"    
   wrote   
   > >  in   
   > >  message news:<9cXnb.17028$Tx.2875864@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...   
   > > > > > > "Barbara Schwarz"  wrote in   
   message   
   > > > > > > news:4c418fa.0310290828.37834ca6@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > "Markasurusi Probertasaurusi"    
   > >  wrote   
   > > > >  in   
   > > > >  message news:...   
   > > > > > > > > "Barbara Schwarz"  wrote in   
   > >  message   
   > > > > > > > > news:4c418fa.0310280845.26b781b6@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > > > mrcmasher@hotmail.com (Scott Sande) wrote in message   
   > >  news:...   
   > > > > > > > > > > Hey barb.  People might take you a little more seriously   
   if   
   > >  you   
   > >  could   
   > > > > > > > > > > spell.  Get a dictionary.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > English is my 2nd language.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Hmmm...that puts logic and the understanding of reality even   
   > >  lower   
   > > > >  than   
   > > > >  I   
   > > > > > > > > thought.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > If you are as fluent like me in a 2nd   
   > > > > > > > > > language, you have a right to critic.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Can I also criticize? And, how do you know that I am not   
   fluent   
   > >  in   
   > > > >  more   
   > > > >  than   
   > > > > > > > > one language? Hmmm??? Using that magical $ceinoBall?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > However, it is always the people   
   > > > > > > > > > that don't speak a 2nd language fluently that attack   
   others on   
   > >  true   
   > > > > > > > > > and even imaginary imperfections of that 2nd language.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > There are those who use the spelling flame. However, it is   
   as   
   > > > >  specious   
   > > > >  as   
   > > > > > > > > many of the things you post. I equatge its use with that of   
   a   
   > > > >  violation   
   > > > >  of   
   > > > > > > > > Godwin's law.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > I doubt that you understand the dangers, the criminality and   
   the   
   > > > > > > > inhumanity of "deprogramming", Mr. Probert,   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > I do understand the horrors of brainwashing, which   
   "deprogramming"   
   > >  un-does,   
   > > > > > > and am actively involved in cult prevention wrt to the so-called   
   > >  messianic   
   > > > > > > jews. I have read the cults manuals, and have seen just how they   
   try   
   > >  to   
   > > > > > > steal minds.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So, I run into a active Nazi who is going after the Jews   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I am NOT going after anyone. I work in an *early intervention*   
   program   
   > >  where   
   > > > > the targets of a group called "Jews for Jesus" (broadly covered   
   under   
   > >  the   
   > > > > term "Messianic Jews")are invited into my home, made just like a   
   member   
   > >  of   
   > > > > the family, and are otherwise shown that they can made their own   
   > >  choices.   
   > > > > You see, I have read the 'conversion' a/k/a brainwashing manual for   
   this   
   > > > > group.   
   > > >   
   > > > What is your problem with people picking their religion?   
   > >   
   > > Being brainwashed (an expereince you never have to worry about) to   
   change   
   > > faiths is not "picking" a religion. It is the antithesis of free choice.   
   Why   
   > > do you oppose free choice?   
   >   
   > I think your are a very sick man, Saurus. People like you are the   
   > basic problem on earth. They can't leave others alone and in order to   
   > justify their persecution, they claim that people are brainwashed.   
      
   I never claimed you could ber brainwashed (nothing to wash).   
      
   You   
   > should read what brainwashing really is about. Listening to others   
   > talk about religion and making the deicison that you want that   
   > religion for yourself is NOT brainwashing!   
      
   But, that is not what the $cienos, or other cults, do. However, you would   
   not remember that.   
      
   > > What is your   
   > > > problem with religion at all, Saurus? They made their decision you   
   > > > just can't stand it that they did not take *your* decision. And what a   
   > > > fool would come to your home knowing that you are pro-"deprogramming"?   
   > >   
   > > I do not accept fools into my home.   
   >   
   > Only fools will come to you. Nobody right in mind would subject   
   > himself to your "deprogrammings".   
      
   My 'deprogramming' consists of dinner, attendance at services which the   
   young adults have chosen to attend, and inclusion in many of my family   
   activities. They get to meet people from the community, and develop   
   freindships and more serious relationships.   
      
   On 11/22 a couple that met through our program will be getting married and   
   my family is invited. It will be a traditional Jewsih wedding.   
      
   >  I do invite young adults at local   
   > > universities to my home to spend time in a Jewish home while they are   
   away   
   > > from theirs.   
   >   
   > You are a German Nazi agent under cover. You try to whitewash the   
   > Germans whenever the speech is on them. You don't even want the world   
   > reminded on what the Nazis did and so.   
      
   BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I wish you could have been at the US Supreme Court   
   building when we visited it in 1997. Whizzer Whites collection of WWII   
   memorabilia was on display. A young German visitor was annoyed that we   
   American were still pushing rememberance of the Nazi's, and asked his friend   
   how long they had to be reminded. I suggested that 1000 years would be   
   around the right time.Do you know the significance of that number?   
      
   Additionally, I work as an interviewer for a visual history project to   
   record the victims memories of Shoah.   
      
   I want them to remember forever.   
      
   > As soon as that comes up, you   
   > "invoke" the Goodwin's "law". You are in your heart a Nazi and no Jew.   
   > No real Jew would want to be connected with you.   
      
   Funny. You would not know a real Jew if you saw one. You probably think   
   (best available term) that Jews 4 Jesus are Jewish.   
      
   >  I introduce them to our Jewish community, and make them feel   
   > > welcome.   
   >   
   > By telling them that they have no right to make their own decisions?   
      
   Nope. Not at all.   
      
   > By telling them that they can only choose the religion that you want   
   > them to have? How attractive!   
      
      
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