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   From: bohrfladt@hotmail.com   
      
   So Alfie, as long as you've stirred the pot with your rant, allow me to add   
   my rant.   
      
   College tuition is so high because   
      
   1) the college profs (maybe you are one???) have the best deal going since   
   ghost payrolling at McPier.They get full benefits, a nice pension benefit,   
   tuition discounts for their kids and they complain when they have to spend   
   more than fifteen hours a week in front of students. While the rest of us   
   are busting our chops 50 weeks a year, the profs only need to be around for   
   about 32 weeks. Full time pay and bennies for part time work really drives   
   up prices.   
      
   Now if you are sharp guy with a degree in something useful, you can go out   
   and sell yourself as a consultant, or an expert witness, or run a side   
   business with all that extra time. Even the not-too-bright PhDs squeeze some   
   side cash selling notebooks and lab manuals to their victims instead of just   
   posting downloadable PDFs.   
      
   2) Tenure = Retire In House. Work hard for a few years, suck up to your   
   superiors, espouse politically correct attitudes and don't piss anyone off   
   and you can sit back and coast until your pension kicks in. No work for full   
   time pay adds to the costs.   
      
   3) Undergrads are the cash cows of the college system. Milk 'em to pay for   
   affirmative action, diversity programs, ADA programs, and all the other   
   social engineering practiced and promoted in universities. In exchange,   
   undergrad education at large state schools is like a meat packing factory.   
   You get herded in and out of giant lectures. Instead of profs you get   
   unmotivated TAs that can barely speak English. I'll bet you can go four   
   years and get a degree and never have a real prof in a class of size 20 at a   
   state school. Maybe learn some Chinese, tho. Somebody has to pay the   
   freight.   
      
   4) And what about those texts? I think most profs care more about the   
   textbook publishers than they do about their students. Just try to get ISBNs   
   of texts in advance of class to do comparison shopping and to find used   
   copies. And why the need to require the latest editions? A lot of the   
   subject matter hasn't changed for decades or even centuries yet the books   
   change every year.   
      
   Let me run your school, Al.   
      
   "Alfred Einstead"  wrote in message   
   news:e58d56ae.0308261527.5f5a715@posting.google.com...   
   > Sn or ty  wrote:   
   > > Because your money is going to pay for special chairs for selfish   
   gluttons.   
   >   
   > If you think you can do better, start your own college and let's see you   
   > try and run a college without state support and see how far you get   
   > without high tuition.   
   >   
   > Meanwhile, try crunching these numbers to make them work.  If you want   
   > a student/teacher ratio like 20/1, professors getting paid a low $40,000   
   > a year (otherwise, why would they bother teaching when they could make   
   > more working in the real world; $30,000 ain't gonna cut it), that's   
   > STILL $2000/year per student you got to divvy up the costs with.   
   >   
   > And that's not even including the actual costs of the buildings (and/or   
   > computers), texts, places to store the texts (or otherwise you're gonna   
   > be 2 weeks into a class before the texts arrive, if you don't stock up   
   > in advance), labs for lab courses, etc.   
   >   
   > That's the absolute ROCK BOTTOM of costs.  You're not going to get away   
   > with under $4000 to $5000 a year without state support.  Period.   
      
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